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re: Butler visiting Thurs; Hou wants Butler for a 2nd; Rap Yaps

Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:44 pm to
the more that time passes the more I'm less excited about Butler. 3rd Rder sounds good but higher gets much tougher for me.

Re-sign Moore and add another like Claiborne or other vet

How many snaps did we even see Breaux and Williams on the field together? Not many
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4771 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:44 pm to
NE doesn't play a lot of zone. He's a good man corner, but it's still NE and their defensive scheme. I don't think Matt Patricia is really a good DC but his defenses sure do look as good as NE defenses have looked since 2000.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112481 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:45 pm to
He played mostly man to man coverage. That's his strength as a player. Dude never quits on a route and can keep direction with some of the best WRs in the league
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116696 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:47 pm to
Reddit is pretty hilarious right now.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
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167032 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:49 pm to
reddit is still 100% foreign to me.
Posted by Sinister1
Metairie
Member since Dec 2007
1872 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:49 pm to
We tendered Chris Ivory as a 2nd rounder and traded him for a 4th. It's possible.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116696 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:52 pm to
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We tendered Chris Ivory as a 2nd rounder and traded him for a 4th. It's possible.



Of course it is. It happens all of the time. What is extremely rare is a team actually signing the offer sheet and giving up the pick tendered at.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14741 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

the more that time passes the more I'm less excited about Butler.


If he plays one year on the tender with the patriots and then leaves, they will get a 3rd round compensatory pick. So I doubt they are trading Butler for a 3rd.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28920 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:58 pm to
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the more that time passes the more I'm less excited about Butler. 3rd Rder sounds good but higher gets much tougher for me


We will not find a CB as NFL-ready as Butler in the 3rd round, let alone the 2nd or 1st. This is a proven commodity.

quote:

Re-sign Moore and add another like Claiborne or other vet


I'm down with bringing Moore back. Doesn't impact the move to get Butler.

quote:

How many snaps did we even see Breaux and Williams on the field together? Not many


Yeah there is a reason for this. Neither can stay on the field. Williams can't even get on the field.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116696 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:59 pm to
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If he plays one year on the tender with the patriots and then leaves, they will get a 3rd round compensatory pick. So I doubt they are trading Butler for a 3rd.

That isn't necessarily the case and wouldn't be until 2019, to my knowledge.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9487 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

If he plays one year on the tender with the patriots and then leaves, they will get a 3rd round compensatory pick.


Not a guarantee, comp picks are about players in vs players out
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

he plays one year on the tender with the patriots and then leaves, they will get a 3rd round compensatory pick. So I doubt they are trading Butler for a 3rd.


It's more complicated than that, yet it keeps getting repeated for some reason
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14741 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:04 pm to
I mean, we can put the word "likely" in there. But it's the patriots. They would make sure they get that 3rd round pick.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
12105 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:10 pm to
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I mean, we can put the word "likely" in there. But it's the patriots. They would make sure they get that 3rd round pick.
Again, it would be 2 years from now! That would approximately be the equivalent to approximately a 5th rounder this year. Typically picks lose about a one round value the next year as a rule of thumb.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49539 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:42 pm to
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if he sits out the year, he misses out on more money than hes made in his entire NFL career, and doesnt accrue a season in the NFL which tumbles him right back into restricted free agency



He won't do it, but he can return around week 10 (sacrificing 10/17ths of his ~$3.5m salary) and get a year accrued.

Also, the Pats can sign Butler to the extension and trade him. They just need to use a guaranteed roster bonus in lieu of a typical signing bonus. They could set it up to kick in days later, trade Butler to the Saints, then the Saints would be responsible for it. It could then be prorated throughout the contract.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14143 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:48 pm to
Wtf. Rex Burkhead signs with the Patriots.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116696 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:49 pm to
Holy crap, I can't think of a better fit for them. He is absolutely perfect.

I really wanted him for us.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14143 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:50 pm to
I assume CSP has his eyes on a RB in the top 3 rounds.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
12105 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Wtf. Rex Burkhead signs with the Patriots.
Good signing. Could be one of those under the radar signings like when they signed Hogan.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12059 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:53 pm to
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We will not find a CB as NFL-ready as Butler in the 3rd round, let alone the 2nd or 1st. This is a proven commodity.


anything besides a first is a win to me really.
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