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re: BOUNTY SUSPENSIONS OF PLAYERS OVERTURNED!!!!!.......for now
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:14 pm to Hank Marducas
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:14 pm to Hank Marducas
i feel like this is groundhog day.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:24 pm to Chad504boy
So basically nothing happened today? Good stuff.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:26 pm to Chad504boy
so i guess we're not going to get a decision today.
oh well...maybe tomorrow
oh well...maybe tomorrow
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:47 pm to Hank Marducas
I think we both knew we were on here, but I don't think I remembered your user name
Nothing new on Twitter btw
Nothing new on Twitter btw
Posted on 9/6/12 at 1:58 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
@Larry_Holder: The latest court movements by the NFL, NFLPA in #Saints bounty suspension case LINK
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/6/12 at 2:00 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
The NFL and the NFLPA both filed responses Thursday morning to separate orders handed out by U.S. District Judge Helen Berrigan.
The NFLPA spelled out why it feels there is no conflict of interest in representing the players' union along with New Orleans Saints defensive end Will Smith and former Saints defenders Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove in the fight for a temporary restraining order to stop the bounty-related suspensions of the three players.
The NFL also responded with its opposing view on the temporary restraining order filed by the NFLPA on Tuesday night to stop the suspensions of the three players.
Thomas Depaso, the NFLPA's general counsel, said in the filing that the NFLPA has represented the union and thousands of players for more than 20 years in various disputes with the NFL, most notable Reggie White vs. the NFL. The three players agreed in their filings that there were no conflict of interests between either side with Jeffery Kessler, the NFLPA's outside counsel, and Gregg Levy, the NFL's attorney.
Berrigan expressed concern that Kessler and Levy have been on opposing sides for so many different issues with the NFL and the NFLPA that it could cause conflicts of interest in possible settlement talks.
Depaso also said the NFLPA has asked for settlement discussions on several occasions, which Berrigan said Wednesday that she was extremely disappointed that settlement discussions hadn't occurred because she felt it would give the players involved some relief from their punishments. Depaso said the NFL has refused to engage in such talks.
Depaso did say the NFL informed the NFLPA at one point that Commissioner Roger Goodell would rehear an appeal by Vilma, Fujita, Smith and Hargrove without waiving any claims pending before Judge Berrigan.
"As we get closer to kick-off Sunday, I am disappointed my playing status remains in limbo," Smith said in a statement. "I respect Judge Berrigan's order and my legal team has been diligent in responding. The NFLPA has represented the players inline with their valued role in serving a unique group of professionals, we have been personally involved in every part of this process and there is no conflict of interest to speak of. Irreparable harm has already been levied on me and the players.
"We have been unfairly labeled and punished by this process. While we believe in mediation and settlement, the NFL has never expressed a genuine interest in a mediation process that would provide the players with a fair venue that could be trusted, nor made a settlement offer for us to professionally consider, at any time. That is why we have asked the court for just relief. It is my sincere hope to have this matter resolved as quickly as possible so I may return to my job, teammates and fans, as we take the field against the Redskins."
The NFLPA spelled out why it feels there is no conflict of interest in representing the players' union along with New Orleans Saints defensive end Will Smith and former Saints defenders Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove in the fight for a temporary restraining order to stop the bounty-related suspensions of the three players.
The NFL also responded with its opposing view on the temporary restraining order filed by the NFLPA on Tuesday night to stop the suspensions of the three players.
Thomas Depaso, the NFLPA's general counsel, said in the filing that the NFLPA has represented the union and thousands of players for more than 20 years in various disputes with the NFL, most notable Reggie White vs. the NFL. The three players agreed in their filings that there were no conflict of interests between either side with Jeffery Kessler, the NFLPA's outside counsel, and Gregg Levy, the NFL's attorney.
Berrigan expressed concern that Kessler and Levy have been on opposing sides for so many different issues with the NFL and the NFLPA that it could cause conflicts of interest in possible settlement talks.
Depaso also said the NFLPA has asked for settlement discussions on several occasions, which Berrigan said Wednesday that she was extremely disappointed that settlement discussions hadn't occurred because she felt it would give the players involved some relief from their punishments. Depaso said the NFL has refused to engage in such talks.
Depaso did say the NFL informed the NFLPA at one point that Commissioner Roger Goodell would rehear an appeal by Vilma, Fujita, Smith and Hargrove without waiving any claims pending before Judge Berrigan.
"As we get closer to kick-off Sunday, I am disappointed my playing status remains in limbo," Smith said in a statement. "I respect Judge Berrigan's order and my legal team has been diligent in responding. The NFLPA has represented the players inline with their valued role in serving a unique group of professionals, we have been personally involved in every part of this process and there is no conflict of interest to speak of. Irreparable harm has already been levied on me and the players.
"We have been unfairly labeled and punished by this process. While we believe in mediation and settlement, the NFL has never expressed a genuine interest in a mediation process that would provide the players with a fair venue that could be trusted, nor made a settlement offer for us to professionally consider, at any time. That is why we have asked the court for just relief. It is my sincere hope to have this matter resolved as quickly as possible so I may return to my job, teammates and fans, as we take the field against the Redskins."
Posted on 9/6/12 at 2:04 pm to BRgetthenet
Yeah, I'm not really even sure what happened today besides the same thing that's been going on. I can't imagine Berrigan has any more patience for this
Posted on 9/6/12 at 2:20 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Not sure what this means at this point, but I got a response from Jen Hale
@JenHale504: waiting on more filings... “@brettemus: @JenHale504 Any news looking out on Berrigans decision or is this going to the wire?”
@JenHale504: waiting on more filings... “@brettemus: @JenHale504 Any news looking out on Berrigans decision or is this going to the wire?”
This post was edited on 9/6/12 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/6/12 at 5:16 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
This thread is giving me the worst case of blue balls ever.
Well, worst since the "DREW BREES DEAL COMING TOMORROW!!!" threads.
Well, worst since the "DREW BREES DEAL COMING TOMORROW!!!" threads.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 6:11 pm to Jamohn
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Well, worst since the "DREW BREES DEAL COMING TOMORROW!!!" threads.
Nope it will just be another jimmy johns opening
Posted on 9/6/12 at 8:18 pm to motorbreath
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Good job NFL. Just tell the judge presiding over the case that she has no jurisdiction. It's like they're trying to lose.
Lack of jurisdiction is a very common argument. FRCP 12(b)(1). Judges don't take offense.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:07 am to dinner roll
PFT saying Vilma would likely start off on the PUP even if his suspension were to be lifted. He has a lingering knee injury.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 12:21 am to THRILLHO
Perfect scenario has the Judge throwing the suspension out. Will Smith plays, Vilma is the last Saint to be called out during introductions. He takes the mic after a 3 minute standing ovation. He signals for them to reveal the 2011 NFC South banner hanging in the rafters. Make it happen Saints
Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:05 am to MinnesotaTiger
IMO she's got to make a ruling today. I mean goddamn, piss or get off the pot already
Posted on 9/7/12 at 9:41 am to Brettesaurus Rex
@adbrandt: Again, don't see Judge Berrigan deciding anything in Vilma v. Goodell until after Appeals Panel rules on earlier arbitration.
Well.
Well.
Posted on 9/7/12 at 9:42 am to Brettesaurus Rex
When is the Appeal panel expected to rule?
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