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re: Ben Johnson to raiders?

Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:12 pm to
Elaborate?
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
4373 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Elaborate?

1. Brutal division with 3 HOF coaches all with establish QB’s
2. Besides bowers not really any pieces to work with unlike Chicago or Jacksonville on the offensive side of the ball. Defensively it’s a mess besides Crosby.
3. Mark Davis is a terrible owner. Two winning seasons since he took control of operations in 2011.

Positives is Draft capital, living in Vegas and Cap space, but is this the year you really wanna draft a QB? That many consider the worst class in decades?

This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13732 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:44 pm to
In a division with two coaches that won multiple superbowls, the third that’s won a college championship and has been to the nfc championship his first 3 years after they missed the playoffs 8 straight times. Had the chargers in the playoffs this year in that division after they were drafting in front of us. ( It’s why I wanted him as our coach 3 years ago instead of Allen)

And all three have young qbs going into their prime or in their prime.

They gonna be on the bottom for the foreseeable future. I wouldn’t touch that job.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:56 pm to
Right. If they made him a top 5 highest paid coach with tons of control, I wouldn’t be surprised

Harbaugh took a 5-12 bad cap team to the playoffs too.

Dumb talking point. These guys flock to the competition not run from it, if anything
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119661 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 2:57 pm to
It’s worse than that. They’ve had 2 winning seasons since 2002. But they have cap space and an involved 10% owner I guess
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100464 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 3:04 pm to
I think it's a fun job. Very little pressure, massive support from ownership, he'll have tons of personnel power since the legendary Tommy Brady is probably only halfway the GM and willing to collaborate and even defer to Ben.

Also, remember that Tommy's oldest son is named Ben.

This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:16 pm to
I think the Jets is the worst. The organization is run by a couple of teenagers by proxy. Worst owner= worst franchise. Raiders, Browns, and Panthers close behind. All of them have their own separate negatives and positives. None of them have a decent franchise QB.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
2938 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:18 pm to
The Saints job is the worse, the owner could care less about winning and the GM is a gum smacking idiot that will never be fired because he's bonking the owner.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5468 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:20 pm to
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think the Jets is the worst. The organization is run by a couple of teenagers by proxy. Worst owner= worst franchise. Raiders, Browns, and Panthers close behind. All of them have their own separate negatives and positives. None of them have a decent franchise QB.


Free agents much more attracted to NYC than NOLA for marketing purposes.

NOLA is the worst Ben Johnson told Mickey to frick off.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33420 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:22 pm to
Baffling he would choose them unless they’re planning on giving him Belichick like control over there and a longer leash than they’ve given past coaches
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33420 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Free agents much more attracted to NYC than NOLA for marketing purposes



This isn’t the fricking NBA, you stupid frick. The most popular players play for fricking Kansas City, Baltimore and Buffalo for Christ sake
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73884 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:26 pm to
The raiders could make him a millionaire.
Not smart eh?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33420 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:27 pm to
Interesting if this is true, though. Things are lining up like this for the Saints:


Glenn to the Jets
Johnson to the Raiders
McCarthy to the Bears


Might be a blessing in disguise for the Saints that those three pass on them so they can get Brady. I think he’s the only one who would help get rid of Carr and actually start a rebuild
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5468 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Might be a blessing in disguise for the Saints that those three pass on them so they can get Brady. I think he’s the only one who would help get rid of Carr and actually start a rebuild


Agree we’ll be settling for the crumbs regardless may as well hire someone who generates some excitement.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6920 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 6:06 pm to
Payton is not a HOF HC . He has just as many rings as Brian Bilick and has a .500 record in the playoffs,
WITH A HOF QB. Jeff Fisher even laughs at that. 0
Harbaugh? A HOFer? Are you loaded? The only valid argument is Davis has been a terrible owner. Listen bro, wives have a say so in where thier old man is going. No state tax in Nevada, plenty of stuff for the kids to do, beautiful weather, etc. What do kids have to do in NOLA? How about the ridiculous taxes? Crime? Hurricanes? Need i say more?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70807 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:12 pm to
A lot more smoke this afternoon about Johnson actually really liking the jags job and that low key being the job most coaches kinda like the most.
Posted by coolieaux
Horns Down l"l
Member since Nov 2006
184 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:03 pm to
Taking a job with the raiders would be a career killer for him.
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