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re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by 3deadtrolls 
on 1/16/23 at 11:53 am to Lester Earl
on 1/16/23 at 11:53 am to Lester Earlquote:
the fanbase is completely complicit in the run-it-back shit, too.
The fan base doesn’t coach this team nor make personnel decisions. We buy tickets and beer. Not that important.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by landrywasbeast30 on 1/16/23 at 1:17 pm to Brightside Bengal
Im 100% down to watch 0-17 to get top pick in 2024. I don’t want to watch middle of the pack football every year. Get a stud qb.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by jrobic4 on 1/16/23 at 2:53 pm to landrywasbeast30
on 1/16/23 at 2:53 pm to landrywasbeast30YES, this is the answer.
It's not just about picKS, either. Cut dead weight and open up cap space
It's not just about picKS, either. Cut dead weight and open up cap space
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Dizz 
on 1/16/23 at 3:19 pm to blackandgolddude
on 1/16/23 at 3:19 pm to blackandgolddudequote:
The Giants won a Superbowl at 9-7. Anything is possible.
They also had an established head coach and a good quarterback. You have to have a plan if you want to tank and unless you have a QB to build around it doesn't matter. Next year's QB draft is better than this year's.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 1/16/23 at 3:29 pm to landrywasbeast30
on 1/16/23 at 3:29 pm to landrywasbeast30quote:
don’t want to watch middle of the pack football every year. Get a stud qb.
Only caveat is they aren’t all studs. Just ask Cincy, Clev, NYJ, Chi…fans.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Dizz on 1/16/23 at 3:40 pm to Weekend Warrior79
on 1/16/23 at 3:40 pm to Weekend Warrior79quote:
Cincy, Clev, NYJ, Chi…fans.
One of those is not like the other.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Weekend Warrior79 on 1/16/23 at 3:46 pm to Dizz
on 1/16/23 at 3:46 pm to DizzBut how many QBs did they need to go through before finally landing Burrow
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by landrywasbeast30 on 1/16/23 at 5:38 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are better than Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Mitch Trubisky, Justin Fields. Does that mean they will 100% turn into stars? No. But the talent level and potential is higher than all those other guys I mentioned.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Kitonja on 1/16/23 at 7:58 pm to Brightside Bengal
Tank lmao. I'd be shocked if Allen makes it half a season. I think 2023 gonna be a colossal failure without the Saints even trying to tank. If I'm a player I'm going into that offseason with absolutely no confidence in Allen.
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re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by WicKed WayZ 
on 1/16/23 at 9:16 pm to Brightside Bengal
on 1/16/23 at 9:16 pm to Brightside BengalI have little doubt that DA, if he doesn’t make any coaching changes, particularly on offense, won’t be here next year. We will suck without any help and earn a top 5 pick. And I’m all for that. I would hate to just lose a year but we pretty much already lost one anyway.
I hope it doesn’t come to that point. I’d like to see DA pull a Campbell and swap OCs and start seeing the team play better, even if we don’t make the playoffs. I wanna see coaching changes, the offense play better and see dudes giving a shite. A lot of times you didn’t see guys caring. Even when the Lions lose, you can tell they fricking care. Even if we go 9-8, THATS what I want to see. I don’t want to hear any fricking “stay the course” bull shite from DA this off-season. And I think that’s the thing that pisses me off the most about him.
I hope it doesn’t come to that point. I’d like to see DA pull a Campbell and swap OCs and start seeing the team play better, even if we don’t make the playoffs. I wanna see coaching changes, the offense play better and see dudes giving a shite. A lot of times you didn’t see guys caring. Even when the Lions lose, you can tell they fricking care. Even if we go 9-8, THATS what I want to see. I don’t want to hear any fricking “stay the course” bull shite from DA this off-season. And I think that’s the thing that pisses me off the most about him.
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re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Laaz2750 
on 1/17/23 at 7:55 am to Brightside Bengal
on 1/17/23 at 7:55 am to Brightside Bengal“Tanking” implies you have a choice. We’re keeping DA, which means we are going to lose a lot of games whether we want to or not.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by StrongOffer on 1/17/23 at 9:14 am to Brightside Bengal
on 1/17/23 at 9:14 am to Brightside BengalIt's very rare to win without an elite qb. There are imo 2 future pro bowl qbs next year. I would tank to get one of them. Trade all the aging players and start anew.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by tigerterrace 
on 1/17/23 at 2:19 pm to Hamma1122
on 1/17/23 at 2:19 pm to Hamma1122Honestly I do not see much difference between 8-9 and tanking.
In some ways 8-9 is so much worse because the final 3-4 games you are running on hope. Plus to me are you excited if you are Tampa, Seattle or Minnesota right now.
That is why I do not get all the Geno Smith Love. You have basically gone as high as you are going to go with him. You will probably never win the division, so you will always be fighting for a road playoff game usually against the #1 or #2. So sign up for another 2-3 years of this and then where are you at.
In some ways 8-9 is so much worse because the final 3-4 games you are running on hope. Plus to me are you excited if you are Tampa, Seattle or Minnesota right now.
That is why I do not get all the Geno Smith Love. You have basically gone as high as you are going to go with him. You will probably never win the division, so you will always be fighting for a road playoff game usually against the #1 or #2. So sign up for another 2-3 years of this and then where are you at.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by uptowntiger84 on 1/17/23 at 5:15 pm to Brightside Bengal
on 1/17/23 at 5:15 pm to Brightside BengalYes. I've been saying that this whole season once we missed on Watson. You can't win without a top QB.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by SlowFlowPro 
on 1/17/23 at 5:28 pm to uptowntiger84
on 1/17/23 at 5:28 pm to uptowntiger84quote:
You can't win without a top QB.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by rondo on 1/17/23 at 5:31 pm to Brightside Bengal
on 1/17/23 at 5:31 pm to Brightside BengalI think they'll have to tank 23 and 24 to get right.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by Brightside Bengal on 2/1/23 at 1:48 am to rondo
on 2/1/23 at 1:48 am to rondoBump on this thread now that we have a clearer view of our picks in the ‘23 draft.
I think it would be very interesting if there was a groundswell of fan support for taking a season for Caleb Williams.
I think it would be very interesting if there was a groundswell of fan support for taking a season for Caleb Williams.
re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?Posted by saintsfan1977 on 2/1/23 at 2:11 am to blackandgolddude
quote:
The Giants won a Superbowl at 9-7. Anything is possible.
With a Manning at QB. The Saints won't ever win the SB in my lifetime again.
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