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re: As a fan, would you be willing to completely tank ‘23 for 24?

Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:45 am to
Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
3951 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:45 am to
quote:

An 8-9 team is usually 5 plays away from 11 wins


The Vikings were 13-4 and had a point differential of -3.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5711 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:53 am to
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the fanbase is completely complicit in the run-it-back shite, too.



The fan base doesn’t coach this team nor make personnel decisions. We buy tickets and beer. Not that important.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:17 pm to
Im 100% down to watch 0-17 to get top pick in 2024. I don’t want to watch middle of the pack football every year. Get a stud qb.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7035 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:53 pm to
YES, this is the answer.

It's not just about picKS, either. Cut dead weight and open up cap space
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:19 pm to
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The Giants won a Superbowl at 9-7. Anything is possible.



They also had an established head coach and a good quarterback. You have to have a plan if you want to tank and unless you have a QB to build around it doesn't matter. Next year's QB draft is better than this year's.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:29 pm to
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don’t want to watch middle of the pack football every year. Get a stud qb.

Only caveat is they aren’t all studs. Just ask Cincy, Clev, NYJ, Chi…fans.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Cincy, Clev, NYJ, Chi…fans.


One of those is not like the other.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 3:46 pm to
But how many QBs did they need to go through before finally landing Burrow
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 5:38 pm to
Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are better than Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Mitch Trubisky, Justin Fields. Does that mean they will 100% turn into stars? No. But the talent level and potential is higher than all those other guys I mentioned.
Posted by Kitonja
Member since Dec 2022
174 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:58 pm to
Tank lmao. I'd be shocked if Allen makes it half a season. I think 2023 gonna be a colossal failure without the Saints even trying to tank. If I'm a player I'm going into that offseason with absolutely no confidence in Allen.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:16 pm to
I have little doubt that DA, if he doesn’t make any coaching changes, particularly on offense, won’t be here next year. We will suck without any help and earn a top 5 pick. And I’m all for that. I would hate to just lose a year but we pretty much already lost one anyway.


I hope it doesn’t come to that point. I’d like to see DA pull a Campbell and swap OCs and start seeing the team play better, even if we don’t make the playoffs. I wanna see coaching changes, the offense play better and see dudes giving a shite. A lot of times you didn’t see guys caring. Even when the Lions lose, you can tell they fricking care. Even if we go 9-8, THATS what I want to see. I don’t want to hear any fricking “stay the course” bullshite from DA this off-season. And I think that’s the thing that pisses me off the most about him.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8381 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:55 am to
“Tanking” implies you have a choice. We’re keeping DA, which means we are going to lose a lot of games whether we want to or not.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4355 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:14 am to
It's very rare to win without an elite qb. There are imo 2 future pro bowl qbs next year. I would tank to get one of them. Trade all the aging players and start anew.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3398 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:19 pm to
Honestly I do not see much difference between 8-9 and tanking.

In some ways 8-9 is so much worse because the final 3-4 games you are running on hope. Plus to me are you excited if you are Tampa, Seattle or Minnesota right now.

That is why I do not get all the Geno Smith Love. You have basically gone as high as you are going to go with him. You will probably never win the division, so you will always be fighting for a road playoff game usually against the #1 or #2. So sign up for another 2-3 years of this and then where are you at.

Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3904 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:15 pm to
Yes. I've been saying that this whole season once we missed on Watson. You can't win without a top QB.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422598 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

You can't win without a top QB.


Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77411 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:31 pm to
I think they'll have to tank 23 and 24 to get right.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
Old Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3883 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:48 am to
Bump on this thread now that we have a clearer view of our picks in the ‘23 draft.

I think it would be very interesting if there was a groundswell of fan support for taking a season for Caleb Williams.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7713 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:11 am to
quote:

The Giants won a Superbowl at 9-7. Anything is possible.



With a Manning at QB. The Saints won't ever win the SB in my lifetime again.
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