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re: Zion on Gil’s Arena
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:49 am to shel311
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:49 am to shel311
quote:
Note who you replied to, consider his ratio of negative posts, which is probably close to 100%.
Why do you always try to go personal? I have never and won't ever say a negative thing about you. Yet you are always trying to get people to freeze me out. It a shitty thing to do. It's petty and should be beneath you.
But I have to ask, what exactly is positive about this situation?
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:57 am to brmark70816
quote:Do you understand what "personal" even means? Because that wasn't personal. I discussed specifically and only his posts. Do you disagree with my assertion, yes or no?
Why do you always try to go personal?
quote:Please note I said nothing negative about the poster in my post you replied to. So I'm not following your logic here.
I have never and won't ever say a negative thing about you
quote:Wait, so you agree with the other guy that if Zion copied Lebron's routine, that makes Zion clueless... Really?
But I have to ask, what exactly is positive about this situation?
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:00 am to brmark70816
brmark, it's not personal. You seem like a nice guy. I'd probably enjoy being your friend IRL. And you are obviously very smart in some ways -- highly intelligent.
But your have some really dumb basketball takes. Really dumb.
It's frustrating.
But your have some really dumb basketball takes. Really dumb.
It's frustrating.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:03 am to shel311
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You think stretching wouldn't help younger players
Lebron and CJ have both emphasized the importance of stretching and maintaining flexibility in later years.
Zion dismissed his weight issue and instead said he needs to focus on stretching and flexibility (following Lebrons plan) while completely blowing off that fact that stretching won’t do shite if you’re still way overweight and out of shape.
Again, just another moment of clueless immaturity from Zion.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:07 am to shel311
quote:
I discussed specifically and only his posts. Do you disagree with my assertion, yes or no?
My apologies. I thought you were talking about me when you talked about who he replied to, saying that the poster is always negative.
quote:
Please note I said nothing negative about the poster in my post you replied to. So I'm not following your logic here
It looked personal to me. Basically insinuating that the poster should be ignored. I took it personally when I thought it was me you were talking about.
quote:
Wait, so you agree with the other guy that if Zion copied Lebron's routine, that makes Zion clueless... Really?
Hell no. That would be epic. I'd love for Zion to be half that dedicated..
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:14 am to Soggymoss
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Last offseason 265 is the target weight his chef had for him, so that’s probably around where he was playing last season.
I'm no fitness expert but not convinced of that Soggy, don't think Zion has been 265 since his Duke days. I think its just in his head that bigger is better (Thanos). Stretching for sure will help, via prevention, of soft tissue issues but the structural pounding with that amount of weight is just not a recipe for success with his style of play. Like AD said, he's a Mack Truck that corners like a Ferrari.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:16 am to shel311
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Why not? That plan works.
Cause steroids are illegal.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:20 am to supe12sta12z
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Well he basically admitted to his shitty diet. Then he basically downplayed the need to lose weight. Now he wants to focus on stretching and flexibility.
It’s funny because Zion says he doesn’t need to lose weight, Wemby and Chet said they don’t need to gain any weight. You can definitely see these young guys just don’t have interest in focusing on their body, which is why they are on an extreme end of the scale.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:21 am to BayouFann
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Cause steroids are illegal.
Not if they are prescribed. He can be treated and have his levels professionally maintained within the bounds of the league standards. He could cycle during the offseason as well. Kobe Bryant use to go to Europe and do all types of therapies and treatments not legal in the US during the offseason..
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:24 am to TackySweater
quote:
Doesn’t lebron do more stretching and flexibility because he’s almost 40 years old lol
Thats how he got to where he is.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:32 am to goatmilker
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Thats how he got to where he is.
Also while following a proper diet for years and being in shape.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:34 am to Pistol44
quote:
Stretching for sure will help, via prevention, of soft tissue issues but the structural pounding with that amount of weight is just not a recipe for success with his style of play.
“Nah bro lol I just gotta stretch and be flexible lol zion gonna be Zion bro lol”
-Zion
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:57 am to TackySweater
To be fair most NBA guys come into the league with very bad diets. I've heard them say it themselves as well as accounts from their teammates. This includes Lebron as well. He didn't have a good diet for a long time. DeRozen said he ate off a food truck his first year in Toronto and had no idea a personal chef was a thing.
That being said, some of these guys are fortunate enough to be able to stay relatively healthy and overcome those poor diets with their insane training regimes and playing basketball at every chance.
Zion has poor dieting and he probably overeats as well so that's a very bad combination. Then you factor in his injuries and it becomes a very toxic environment for him since he's sitting around at home with nothing focus on other than rehab. It's a bad cycle for him. They gotta figure how to manage him through the season to keep him focused.
That being said, some of these guys are fortunate enough to be able to stay relatively healthy and overcome those poor diets with their insane training regimes and playing basketball at every chance.
Zion has poor dieting and he probably overeats as well so that's a very bad combination. Then you factor in his injuries and it becomes a very toxic environment for him since he's sitting around at home with nothing focus on other than rehab. It's a bad cycle for him. They gotta figure how to manage him through the season to keep him focused.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:08 pm to TackySweater
quote:So you've now argued that it's clueless that Zion brushed off stretching and you think it is also Zion being clueless that he wants to stretch.
Lebron and CJ have both emphasized the importance of stretching and maintaining flexibility in later years.
Zion dismissed his weight issue and instead said he needs to focus on stretching and flexibility (following Lebrons plan) while completely blowing off that fact that stretching won’t do shite if you’re still way overweight and out of shape.
Again, just another moment of clueless immaturity from Zion.
Got it, makes perfect sense.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:13 pm to brmark70816
quote:Agreed. That poster being referenced replied to that and said Zion is clueless for wanting to copy Lebron.
Hell no. That would be epic. I'd love for Zion to be half that dedicated..
Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:16 pm to brmark70816
Its typical shell stuff. Any time you make a criticism about the pelicans its like you literally fricked his mother lol
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:16 pm to BayouFann
quote:You think the NBA is gonna suspend a star for that? How many times has that happened?
Cause steroids are illegal
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:18 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:You're hurt, man.
Its typical shell stuff. Any time you make a criticism about the pelicans its like you literally fricked his mother lol
You gotta regroup and move on.
ETA: Also, my Mother died about 18 hours ago. True story. I only say that cause the timing is funny, it's not one of those gotchas to make you feel bad, just thought it was a tad coincidental.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:32 pm to shel311
Damn, sorry to hear that brother Shel :(
Sending prayers and condolences your way
Sending prayers and condolences your way
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:49 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Appreciate it!
Damn, sorry to hear that brother Shel :(
Sending prayers and condolences your way
It wasn't unexpected, so it's something I was prepared for, makes it a bit easier than when it's a completely unexpected surprise.
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