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re: Zion is so freaking good
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:28 am to Dinky Mulberry
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:28 am to Dinky Mulberry
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think I've finally figured out the "problem" we...as fans...have with Zion. Amazingly, at least to me, MANY of our fans truly believe that, when healthy, Zion is actually one of the top 5 ...or top 10 or even top 15 players...in the NBA.
I am the most critical person on the board when it comes to Zion. But he has top 5 talent. That is the frustrating part. He can be a legit 32/6/6 guy (basically the same numbers as SGA), especially with the proper supporting cast, coaching and conditioning. The talent is obvious. It leaps off the screen. It's just finding a way to bring it all together.
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:34 am to brmark70816
He’s awesome, everyone knows that.
He still is not reliable enough to build a team around.
I’m selling him this summer if I get a good offer.
We’re about to be going into year 7 of Zion and still hoping he can play more than 30 games a year
He still is not reliable enough to build a team around.
I’m selling him this summer if I get a good offer.
We’re about to be going into year 7 of Zion and still hoping he can play more than 30 games a year
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:56 am to six4lsu
quote:I keep hearing this about Trey, not really seeing it. Trey isn't an efficient scorer, not that good at defense, and a pretty bad rebounder for his size. Basically he's not as good as BI. We would need someone close to Zion's level for this team to make a deep playoff run. 36% from 3 and 5 rebounds a game at 6'9 isn't winning a title as your 2nd best player.
Nah I believe Trey can be a 2nd or 3rd guy on a championship team.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:07 am to Dinky Mulberry
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I hope...and assume...that the Pelicans are currently just playing Zion to try and (possibly) build up his trade value and will trade him,
I assume that the primary reason that we are playing him is to keep him in shape. I don't think it has anything to do with whether or not we are thinking about trading him.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:14 am to saintslsupels
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I keep hearing this about Trey, not really seeing it. Trey isn't an efficient scorer, not that good at defense, and a pretty bad rebounder for his size. Basically he's not as good as BI. We would need someone close to Zion's level for this team to make a deep playoff run. 36% from 3 and 5 rebounds a game at 6'9 isn't winning a title as your 2nd best player.
Trey is definitely overrated and has several holes in his overall game.
BUT...he's still young and has potential to make a solid leap with several aspects of his game. Next coupla years will be key for him...he'll either "develope" into an overall solid player...or not. No way I'd move him...until he shows us which way it's gonna be. Can always move him a coupla years from now.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:19 am to saintslsupels
Trey is a more efficient player when you compare him to Ingram. The stats back that up. Trey is probably a #3 guy on a contender but to say he's inefficient is hilarious.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:25 am to supe12sta12z
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Trey is a more efficient player when you compare him to Ingram. The stats back that up. Trey is probably a #3 guy on a contender but to say he's inefficient is hilarious.
Yep...if we wanted to move Trey...we could get a solid return.
On Ingram...we couldn't get much of anything...
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:44 pm to shel311
F. U.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:52 pm to GOP_Tiger
I didn’t watch the game last night but checking out the highlights. Zion looks like a freak right now, like I’d wager he’s close to rookie Zion build. His body is ridiculous.
Editing to add: is Zion the best player of all time at going full court and scoring with 5 seconds or less on the clock? The amount of times I’ve seen him go the full length and make a tough shot at the horn. He’s a freak.
Editing again to add: Holy shite they tried to build a double wall with Gobert and Zion went through it and got an and 1 lmao.
Editing to add: is Zion the best player of all time at going full court and scoring with 5 seconds or less on the clock? The amount of times I’ve seen him go the full length and make a tough shot at the horn. He’s a freak.
Editing again to add: Holy shite they tried to build a double wall with Gobert and Zion went through it and got an and 1 lmao.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:33 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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. Zion looks like a freak right now, like I’d wager he’s close to rookie Zion build. His body is ridiculous.
He's lighter than ever. You can see the extra burst it's giving him. He looks thinner but then you see him against someone like Edwards, who is a thick basketball player. Zion just dwarfs him. He still has to lose 20-25lbs, especially as he moves to the SG role. I wouldn't expect him to do it in one offseason. We just need him to be sub 250 this offseason..
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:23 pm to brmark70816
Yeah, Zion had the potential to be in the greatest conversation, but allowed, through his own unprofessionalism, the conversation to become greatest disappointment. He can still be a great player if he has grown up, but he's going to need to grow the frick up and stop taking summer off like he's in middle school. Dude has robbed this fanbase of what could have been a fun run because he was lazy for 5 years. That said, I we can't move him, I hope he magically figured it out and will lead us to the Western Conference Finals, but I just don't trust him any further than I can throw him.
I'm just curious how many posters on here truly believe he's going to show up to training camp in this same shape, because that's what greatness requires.
I'm just curious how many posters on here truly believe he's going to show up to training camp in this same shape, because that's what greatness requires.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:01 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I'm just curious how many posters on here truly believe he's going to show up to training camp in this same shape, because that's what greatness requires.
That wouldn't be good enough. He needs to keep progressing. I want him slimmer. He took 2 falls last night that would have previously resulted in injuries. He was able to bounce up and keep playing. He has said that he is working on stretching and recovery, along with conditioning. It's a process. I just want him to keep playing for the rest of the year (he can skip the B2Bs).
This offseason should be hell for him. I want him training with real professionals of all disciplines. Hit every aspect of his game, body, and psyche. It has to be a total buy in from him and his support system. That's the only way it works. Otherwise, it's just not enough and it won't work..
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:24 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Don't take them serious. They were probably the same stans that were saying we'd "make noise when Zion comes back next year" after the Pelicans-Suns playoff series. They'll be the same ones singing "Cry Me A River" when he doesn't resign with us in three years as an unrestricted free agent.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:24 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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We are talking about a 19 win basketball team glowingly in year 6 of a rebuild
Would have a Zion is fat thread made you happier?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:26 pm to PelsRoe318
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They'll be the same ones singing "Cry Me A River" when he doesn't resign with us in three years as an unrestricted free agent.
STFU. No one is worried about the 2028 season at the moment.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:35 pm to Balsamic_duck
Exactly, I just said in another thread that Dejounte will be injured next season, minute restriction the season after that, plus a player option in his third year. So we won't beable to legitimately contend until Zion's last year, his third year(contract has three years left). Not only that people still talking about building around him. With what? You want to trade our draft capital? Other than that are our players and what value can you get for them and would you trade them? I would be fielding offers for the summer and if not hopefully he stays healthy next season and be looking to offload him to the highest bidder. Yeh he's good but do you really think within the next three years will be anywhere close to a championship with his unreliableness, our aging role players, coach, and recent role players we lost (jonas, marshall, dyson, ingram, nance,). You would think dude was on the same level as Lebron the way yall stan him in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:41 pm to PelsRoe318
Zion on GS would be the best team in the West (if they could add a quality big). If Phoenix would send y'all Booker and PHX could add some size and skill in other positions, Zion and KD would be dangerous as hell. Zion on Houston would also be a contender.
No matter what, if Zion is on an already established team next year, they will be a contender. If he's next to another great player, his team will be a contender.
No matter what, if Zion is on an already established team next year, they will be a contender. If he's next to another great player, his team will be a contender.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:51 pm to six4lsu
Trade him while the fire is hot. How many times is the organization gonna let Lucy pulling the football away when Charlie Brown is about to kick it. Soon as the season is over he’s headed for Wendy’s
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:19 pm to VOR
quote:weird reply
F. U.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:34 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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man doesn’t even have a jumpshot.
This seems like the kind of thing the greats do-add something new (like a jumper) to their game every off-season. Zion just adds 30 lbs
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