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re: Your boy Flecher on 1280 am Eric Asher show..Phoenix is a darkhorse
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:45 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ayton v Garland
Garland left the combine early after the Suns promised to take him @6. Their is some concern the Lakers might draft him first on behalf of Chicago.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:57 pm to NOSHAU
Watched the Clippers quite a bit. He absolutely can.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:36 pm to CocoLoco
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Galo, assuming he’d be in the trade. Can play the 2-4.
Harrell can play the 4-5
Problem is they both expire after next season and I would have little interest in bringing them back. Gallo has such a bad injury history and I would want no part of him as he's aging. Harrell is going to demand more money than his role is worth.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:42 pm to TigerintheNO
Garland is a Klutch client, FYI.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
DC, so glad you're back here! Can't wait till next season's game memes!
#FlapCity
#ZionFliesHigh
#FlapCity
#ZionFliesHigh
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's not that only 4 players have a shot, it's about the risk after those 4 players and how it dramatically increases
You can look at the #3 and #4 picks over the past 10 years compared to the #6 and #7, and its not a big difference. There hasnt been many drafts where scouts have said that the 1-4 picks are pretty sure fire and about half of them at the most end up being studs.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:59 pm to Lester Earl
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I haven’t once said he was like any player because of their stats. That’s on you. If that is all you want to look at, that is your prerogative. Just don’t pretend that is my argument.
You've only compared his passing as a RC to current Jokic, his inside/out as a RC to current Embid and his defense as a RC compared to Gobert being the DPOTY.
You didnt use stats but you knock him for not being as good as the best quality of every other big man in their prime.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:11 pm to CocoLoco
That would be such an interesting team
I actually love it but I feel LAC is a step behind BOS and NYK
The latter mostly due to picks
I actually love it but I feel LAC is a step behind BOS and NYK
The latter mostly due to picks
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:14 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Nailed it.
You didnt use stats but you knock him for not being as good as the best quality of every other big man in their prime
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:32 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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didnt use stats but you knock him for not being as good as the best quality of every other big man in their prime.
Because he has shown no redeeming skill outside of scoring and rebounding and no one is winning anything with your traditional 18/10 big man anymore. . Explain to me how you do not think that is reinvent
You better be able to do something else and he hasn’t shown anything. He doesn’t get to the line, he’s not a good passer, he doesn’t defend and he hasn’t been a stretch.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:38 pm to Lester Earl
quote:You're going to first have to explain how you think he'll only be 18 and 10.
Because he has shown no redeeming skill outside of scoring and rebounding and no one is winning anything with your traditional 18/10 big man anymore. . Explain to me how you do not think that is reinvent
I'd bet anything you want he'll average over both of those numbers over the next 5-7 seasons. Wayyyy over on the scoring.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:49 pm to shel311
I’m just generalizing, he could average a few more a game. But his FG% will stabilize, he doesn’t get to the line & he isn’t shooting 3’s at this point. 18-20 a game isn’t out of the question. How big of an impact that is on modern basketball is tho
Posted on 5/23/19 at 7:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Because he has shown no redeeming skill outside of scoring and rebounding and no one is winning anything with your traditional 18/10 big man anymore. . Explain to me how you do not think that is reinvent
Bc he's not going to be an 18/10 guy. He's going to be much better. For the sake of this thread, im talking about how he will be as a Pelican. He would not be the feature guy, so you would have a guy that could be a 25/12 guy that isnt even your best option. Whether you think it wins or not, there's not a team in the NBA that wouldnt want that situation.
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ou better be able to do something else and he hasn’t shown anything. He doesn’t get to the line, he’s not a good passer, he doesn’t defend and he hasn’t been a stretch.
Its like you're forgetting that he 20. A 20 year old physical freak. And yes he has gotten better at stuff already. His face up game is better than it was in college and there is absolutely zero reason to think he wont continue to improve. How much he's going to get to the line is kind of impossible to predict so I dont even consider that as an argument. His defense was weak but almost everything you read about his defense, which I dont think you've really watched him or read anything other than look at his basic stats on ESPN.com, leads to say that its more fundamentals than it is skill set. He'll get better. He will probably never be DPOTY, but with his upside on everything else, he only needs to be a good defender, not great, to be an elite player.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 7:28 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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ow much he's going to get to the line is kind of impossible to predict so I dont even consider that as an argument.
But you can predict he is going to go 25/12, which only 13 players have done in the last 40 years by the way, but you cant predict if he will ever be able to draw fouls?
And he is going to be the 2nd option. You have one hell of an imagination
Posted on 5/23/19 at 7:49 pm to BayouRat15
Here's an article about what the Suns could offer for AD:
AD Suns
Ayton reminds me of Al Jefferson but he's bigger.
AD Suns
Ayton reminds me of Al Jefferson but he's bigger.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 7:52 pm to Lester Earl
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But you can predict he is going to go 25/12, which only 13 players have done in the last 40 years by the wa
Im not saying this dude is Hakeem, and 25/12 is a stretch, but Hakeems point average jumped up 8 points from his really good rookie season to his peak. Duncan at his peak was a 25 and 12. I think Ayton has star potential. I guess 22/12 is more realistic.
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but you cant predict if he will ever be able to draw fouls?
No actually I cant predict how many fouls he will draw, but its safe to say that he will draw more. Im certainly not going to knock him for how many he was drawing this year like you are. Jokic averaged 2.4 FTA his RC season and now he's at 4.4. Ayton averaged 2.7. I guess you thinks his will go down?
Im done with the conversation, the trade is not going to happen anyway. You dont think he will be a good centerpiece in a trade. I think he will be a regular all-star. Add that to a excellent 3 point shooter on a friendly contract with a #6 pick, i'll take that over the #3 pick or Tatum and Co.
Edit: And 1,000x better than Ingram or Ball, or both.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:06 pm to kadillak
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Problem is they both expire after next season and I would have little interest in bringing them back. Gallo has such a bad injury history and I would want no part of him as he's aging. Harrell is going to demand more money than his role is worth.
Galo has had some injury issues in the past, no doubt a legit concern. Did play in 68 last season, which is fine. Don't see him costing an outrageous amount. He is such a good fit with Zion and Jrue, though.
Harrell, very underrated. He is a guy that would play his role. He's a glue guy that will bust his arse and make the hustle plays. I wish he were somewhat of a threat as an outside shooter, because it would be really fun running Zion at the 5 (Similar to what GS does with Draymond) and Harrell at the 4. MH will get out and run, though. I don't see Harrell or Galo costing an insane amount, and our star player will be on his rookie deal.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:26 pm to BayouRat15
The Phoenix Suns won't trade Ayton, so don't make this dream!
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:54 pm to PelicansBay
I was close..
I would take that offer tomorrow
I would take that offer tomorrow
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