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re: Wild West Playoffs Thread 04/28 - NOP @ GSW - Game 1 - 04/28 9:30 ET on TNT #StillFlockin
Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:53 am to cgrand
Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:53 am to cgrand
quote:
we only lose a tiebreak to UTA at 48
quote:
think they go by conference record which would put us in the 6th seed with a first round matchup against Portland
Tiebreaker for more than 2 teams is win percentage against the tied teams. If we tie OKC and UTA, the order would be OKC, UTA, NOP. Conversely if we tie OKC and SAS, the order would be NOP, OKC, SAS regardless of the last game I believe.
Conference record is the 2nd tie breaker for 2 tied teams and 3rd tie breaker for more than 2 tied teams.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 7:56 am
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 8:52 am to NOFOX
This was in the advocate this morning. Does anyone fact check anymore?? Looking at you Tim Liotta
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:12 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Deion is doing a better job with this thread than the "paper of record" 
pels/MIN/DEN are really the only teams in jeopardy at this point. all SAS has to do his beat SAC at home, and all OKC has to do is beat MEM, and they are both in, so thats a near lock. all UTA has to do is beat LAL tonite and they are in, should be a lock.
so two spots for three teams assuming UTA wins.
we lose a tiebreak with both MIN & DEN.
here are clinching scenarios for the LAC game:
Spot #7
Pelicans beat the Clippers, and
Thunder loses to the Heat, and
Spurs loses to the Kings
Spot #8
Pelicans beats the Clippers
pels/MIN/DEN are really the only teams in jeopardy at this point. all SAS has to do his beat SAC at home, and all OKC has to do is beat MEM, and they are both in, so thats a near lock. all UTA has to do is beat LAL tonite and they are in, should be a lock.
so two spots for three teams assuming UTA wins.
we lose a tiebreak with both MIN & DEN.
here are clinching scenarios for the LAC game:
Spot #7
Pelicans beat the Clippers, and
Thunder loses to the Heat, and
Spurs loses to the Kings
Spot #8
Pelicans beats the Clippers
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:14 am to cgrand
oh, and pull like hell for POR to beat DEN
Posted on 4/8/18 at 10:35 am to SOLA
No problem 
it’s been a nice distraction
it’s been a nice distraction
Posted on 4/8/18 at 10:43 am to cgrand
Western Conference NBA tiebreakers
1. Houston Rockets (64-16)
Locked, first seed
2. Golden State Warriors (57-23)
Locked, second seed
3. Portland Trail Blazers (48-32)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (4-0)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (2-1), Spurs (2-1)
Split series: Pelicans (2-2)
Note: If they win their two remaining games (against Denver, Utah), they finish third; 8-6 division record
4. Utah Jazz (46-33)
Win tiebreakers over: Spurs (3-1), Pelicans (3-1), Blazers (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Thunder (3-1)
Split series: Timberwolves (2-2), Nuggets (2-2)
Note: If they win their three remaining games (against the Lakers, Golden State, Portland), they finish third; 7-8 division record
5. New Orleans Pelicans (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Spurs (2-1), Thunder (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (3-1), Timberwolves (4-0), Nuggets (2-1)
Split series: Blazers (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against the Clippers and San Antonio; 8-7 division record
6. San Antonio Spurs (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Timberwolves (2-1), Blazers (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (3-1), Pelicans (2-1)
Split series: Thunder (2-2), Nuggets (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Sacramento and New Orleans; 9-6 division record
7. Oklahoma City Thunder (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Jazz (3-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Timberwolves (3-1), Pelicans (2-1), Nuggets (3-1), Blazers (4-0)
Split series: Spurs (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Miami and Memphis; 5-11 division record
8. Minnesota Timberwolves (45-35)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (3-1), Pelicans (4-0), Nuggets (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Spurs (2-1)
Split series: Jazz (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Memphis and Denver; 9-6 division record
9. Denver Nuggets (45-35)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (3-1), Pelicans (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Timberwolves (2-1)
Split series: Jazz (2-2), Spurs (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Portland and Minnesota; 8-6 division record
Tiebreaker Basis – 2 Teams Tied
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Better winning percentage in games against each other
(2) Division leader wins a tie over a team not leading a division
(3) Division won-lost percentage (only if teams are in same division)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in own
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(6) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in other
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(7) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all
opponents (“point differential”)
Tiebreaker Basis – Three or More Teams Tied
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (this criterion is
applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams
(3) Division won-lost percentage (only if all teams are in same division)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in own
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(6) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all
opponents (“point differential”)
1. Houston Rockets (64-16)
Locked, first seed
2. Golden State Warriors (57-23)
Locked, second seed
3. Portland Trail Blazers (48-32)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (4-0)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (2-1), Spurs (2-1)
Split series: Pelicans (2-2)
Note: If they win their two remaining games (against Denver, Utah), they finish third; 8-6 division record
4. Utah Jazz (46-33)
Win tiebreakers over: Spurs (3-1), Pelicans (3-1), Blazers (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Thunder (3-1)
Split series: Timberwolves (2-2), Nuggets (2-2)
Note: If they win their three remaining games (against the Lakers, Golden State, Portland), they finish third; 7-8 division record
5. New Orleans Pelicans (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Spurs (2-1), Thunder (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (3-1), Timberwolves (4-0), Nuggets (2-1)
Split series: Blazers (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against the Clippers and San Antonio; 8-7 division record
6. San Antonio Spurs (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Timberwolves (2-1), Blazers (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Jazz (3-1), Pelicans (2-1)
Split series: Thunder (2-2), Nuggets (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Sacramento and New Orleans; 9-6 division record
7. Oklahoma City Thunder (46-34)
Win tiebreakers over: Jazz (3-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Timberwolves (3-1), Pelicans (2-1), Nuggets (3-1), Blazers (4-0)
Split series: Spurs (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Miami and Memphis; 5-11 division record
8. Minnesota Timberwolves (45-35)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (3-1), Pelicans (4-0), Nuggets (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Spurs (2-1)
Split series: Jazz (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Memphis and Denver; 9-6 division record
9. Denver Nuggets (45-35)
Win tiebreakers over: Thunder (3-1), Pelicans (2-1)
Lose tiebreakers to: Timberwolves (2-1)
Split series: Jazz (2-2), Spurs (2-2)
Note: Their two remaining games are against Portland and Minnesota; 8-6 division record
Tiebreaker Basis – 2 Teams Tied
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Better winning percentage in games against each other
(2) Division leader wins a tie over a team not leading a division
(3) Division won-lost percentage (only if teams are in same division)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in own
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(6) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in other
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(7) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all
opponents (“point differential”)
Tiebreaker Basis – Three or More Teams Tied
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (this criterion is
applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams
(3) Division won-lost percentage (only if all teams are in same division)
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for the playoffs in own
conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff
position)
(6) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all
opponents (“point differential”)
Posted on 4/8/18 at 10:58 am to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:
Looking at you Tim Liotta
that's not Tim's fault. Advocate copy editors/page designers made that headline when they pulled the story from the AP wire to fill space.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:02 am to quail man
Time for this man to ball the frick out tonight.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:10 pm to Broski
Is he’s even playing?
Him playing might hurt us anyway
Him playing might hurt us anyway
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:15 pm to Broski
would be better for the pels if the jazz win out.
they would pass POR for three, and the pels could get to 5 with 2 wins as noted earlier
that would set up a 4/5 with POR, and avoid UTA, HOU & GSW.
they would pass POR for three, and the pels could get to 5 with 2 wins as noted earlier
that would set up a 4/5 with POR, and avoid UTA, HOU & GSW.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:29 pm to cgrand
Per Matt Moore
DEN eliminated tomorrow with
Jazz win LAL
Nuggets loss to Portland (clinches Wolves' tiebreaker, Denver max wins at 46)
Wolves win over Memphis (Clinches at least tie with Denver)
Spurs win over Kings (47 wins)
Pelicans win over Clippers (47 wins)
Thunder win over Heat (47 wins)
DEN eliminated tomorrow with
Jazz win LAL
Nuggets loss to Portland (clinches Wolves' tiebreaker, Denver max wins at 46)
Wolves win over Memphis (Clinches at least tie with Denver)
Spurs win over Kings (47 wins)
Pelicans win over Clippers (47 wins)
Thunder win over Heat (47 wins)
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:56 pm to quail man
ill make it simpler. if the Nuggets lose to Portland, they are all but out barring a miracle. at that point, even if they beat MIN & tie the series, they don't have the next tiebreaker
Id say Utah has the toughest schedule from here. DEN has the second toughest, POR third, NOP fourth, SAS fifth, MIN has the sixth toughest, OKC has the easiest.
Id say Utah has the toughest schedule from here. DEN has the second toughest, POR third, NOP fourth, SAS fifth, MIN has the sixth toughest, OKC has the easiest.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:14 pm to DeionDeion
this is interesting
POR is in at 48, but they’ve now lost three in a row, and finish at DEN with DENs neck in a noose, then home vs UTA
we really need POR to beat DEN
POR is in at 48, but they’ve now lost three in a row, and finish at DEN with DENs neck in a noose, then home vs UTA
we really need POR to beat DEN
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:40 pm to cgrand
ideally, the Pels want to play Portland or Denver. They don't stand a chance against Minny with Jimmy back, and they are terrible against Utah without Boogie. I would rather not face playoff Spurs, though they are beatable this year, and OKC is starting to heat up at the right time.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:00 pm to quail man
quote:
ideally, the Pels want to play Portland or Denver.
I would rather play Portland since Milsap is back also.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:34 pm to Colonel Flagg
the only way the Pels end up in 6 seed is going 1-1 with a little help, right? if they go 2-0, odds are they are in the 4/5 slot?
Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:44 pm to quail man
quote:correct
only way the Pels end up in 6 seed is going 1-1 with a little help, right?
quote:odds are 100%
they go 2-0, odds are they are in the 4/5 slot?
Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:49 pm to Fearthehat0307
Pelibros, is there a consensus on who we want to win tonight, UTA or LAL?
Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:55 pm to Solo
Lakers, we want 4th!
Posted on 4/8/18 at 4:15 pm to quail man
negative ghost rider.
if we go 2-0, the lowest seed we get is 6th: we go 2-0, Utah goes 2-1, and OKC goes 2-0
going 1-1 with a loss to the Spurs puts us at risk of being 8th: we go 1-1. MIN or DEN go 2-0
going 0-2 could drop up to 9th unless DEN or MIN goes 0-2
if we go 2-0, the lowest seed we get is 6th: we go 2-0, Utah goes 2-1, and OKC goes 2-0
going 1-1 with a loss to the Spurs puts us at risk of being 8th: we go 1-1. MIN or DEN go 2-0
going 0-2 could drop up to 9th unless DEN or MIN goes 0-2
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 4:48 pm
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