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Why don’t we just keep everything and see what happens

Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:16 pm
I think we are better off taking the pick at 4, keeping Lonzo and the rest of our picks and seeing what happens in 2020. Unless some other team just gets desperate, I like what the Pelicans have and would like to see it play out for a couple years, especially if we can get a decent starter in FA.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5856 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:21 pm to
Anything’s possible.... Garland could be the next Damian Lillard. Hunter could be the next Jayson Tatum. Any of those picks could be busts and we could’ve gotten Beal or Turner.
Who knows. That’s what makes it so intriguing.

But personally, the way we’re set up, I’d like to take several of our plethora of unknowns and get a good known
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted by LSUFM57
Member since Jul 2012
308 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:28 pm to
Can’t go wrong picking Garland or Hunter
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52610 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:30 pm to
I’m not against it. For once it feels amazing having complete trust in my gm and evp. Whatever they want to do, I’ll support
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34293 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Can’t go wrong picking Garland or Hunter


According to pretty much every draft in history, plenty can go wrong with any pick in the top 5.

They are not at all sure shots at all.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20874 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:33 pm to
At first I was one of the ones that was all for packaging Ball and maybe the 4th pick, but now I also think maybe we shouldn't be too hasty to keep wheeling & dealing. We have a great influx of young talent- let's we what they can do on the court!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:36 pm to
Lots of risk there, but with the sheer amount of assets we now have, we can afford to take some risks.

I'm not for unloading a most of our new assets for one sure thing (beal).

Posted by Dogstar
Member since Jun 2019
372 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:38 pm to
I think at this point we should only take deals that are stupid overpays in our favor. Like turning one asset into three assets down the road, etc.
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:39 pm to
Yeah you right.
Beal is only here for 2 years
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:27 pm to
If you can work a trade for a game changer like Markkanen or Beal you have to give the 4th pick up plus other assets. Proven talent while still young trumps the draft pick. Whose to say Beal wouldn’t love playing with Zion and sign an extension?
Posted by Don Pel
Member since Feb 2019
436 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:30 pm to
The way I see things:

New Orleans current core is Ball-Holiday-Ingram and we'll be adding pieces come Thursday. It's safe to assume that we select Zion with the first overall pick of the draft. So, if we add Williamson to our already assembled core we now have positions 1-4 locked up.

::The void of Anthony Davis lingers::

So, I think we make a draft day trade of the 4th pick for a big man to complete our starting 5.

A trade with Indiana for Myles Turner seems to make the most sense for New Orleans. If 1) Indiana is enamored with Garland, and 2) Indiana is ready to move on from Turner and bet on Sabonis.

I can also see a world where Aaron Gordon is a valued commodity to round out the roster. I'm not enamored by his fit with the current roster but will admit that it'd be a fun team to watch.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 7:38 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95421 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:32 pm to
Griffin has been working miracles so far, topped off by getting the Lakers to heavily bid against themselves to get AD.

I think he has earned the right to go wherever he wants to on this one.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8287 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:41 pm to
There is a certain excitement behind draft night, and the intrigue of seeing how good a rookie actually is, but the fact is teams can't win when there are too many of them on the roster. From what people are saying, if possible, Griffin wants to establish a winning culture for Zion from the beginning.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

if we can get a decent starter in FA


The benefit of trading lets you handpick the type of veteran talent you want/need, with an already acceptable contract, whether the player would have actually chosen you freely. Quick mail-order but it costs assets.

FA, on the other hand, invites an inflated bidding war even on mid-level starters, and there's no guarantee you'll even get them. It's crap-shoot, but you keep your picks for a snail-mail rebuild.
Posted by joechristoppher77
Ruston
Member since Apr 2006
5319 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:11 pm to
Turner and Gordon would definitely be interesting and I could see both being made available for the right deal, and I'm all for it if we can swap or maintain future assets. I'm actually very interested in Gordon personally, but that's probably too much fun lol
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61495 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

I think at this point we should only take deals that are stupid overpays in our favor. Like turning one asset into three assets down the road, etc.


That's what the well run teams do. They have enough margin for error that they are able to wait for the right opportunity to come along.

I also think we as fans are looking too much for finished products when part of what this new front office is supposed to be improving is scouting and player development. Get Turner, who is essentially a role playing starter, or take a shot on Garland who has star potential and find a player using cheaper assets to develop into a solid stretch 5? This FO should be doing the latter.
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
2681 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:11 pm to
I agree 100%. With where we're at right now, I feel like we can take a big swing with this #4 pick. I'm of the mindset that im fine getting a bunch of young, early lottery picks, let them play through the early struggles and see who develops. No rush building a playoff team this year. Building a core and a culture is more important. Watching a young, exciting team develop will be fun as hell next year.
Posted by PTinBR
Member since Mar 2017
602 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:29 pm to
Agreed. The difference between good and great teams isn’t a bunch of role players, it’s stars. These draft picks are chances at stars. You can find role players other ways.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14900 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:45 pm to
Short of getting a Beal quality player I would keep everything. This may be considered a 3 player draft, but the potential at 4 is huge.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8160 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:46 am to
I tried desperately to get Orlando to accept a trade for Gordon on 2K. Didn’t work unless I gave up like 3 draft picks

A line up

Ball
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Gordon

Would certainly be fun to watch
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