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TV deal with Bally's Sports ends after the season, Pels looking for better options
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:31 am
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The Pelicans' agreement with Bally Sports concludes at the end of the 2021-22 season. Pelicans senior vice president Greg Bensel told the Times-Picayune that the team is “making full access to watching Pelicans’ games a priority.”
“Unlike the NFL, the NBA and the Pelicans in particular need to work very closely with our regional sports network to build sports programming that will in turn result in fans having options to learn about the team and watch the team play live games,” Bensel’s statement provided to The Times-Picayune read. “We value our relationship with Sinclair/Bally Sports. We maintain a respected and open relationship that requires daily interaction to get our games broadcast. Obviously, we do not want to have any friction points or obstacles that disallow our fans in our market to watch our games. This hurts our product. We listen to their concerns and certainly share those with Sinclair/Bally Sports.”
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The question I have is if they do switch, do we get to keep Joel?
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:31 am to TigerinATL
Bally Sports is absolutely terrible.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:36 am to TigerinATL
Yes, Joel and AD cam switch to whichever network they move games to.
Personally I would love to see Amazon step in and offer NBA games, they have the platform to do it and everyone has access to that platform worldwide.
Personally I would love to see Amazon step in and offer NBA games, they have the platform to do it and everyone has access to that platform worldwide.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:45 am to Soggymoss
I’ve grown to liking Bally.
Being located in Dallas gives their studio show better access to guests analysts, like Marc Stein. Hell if you stay for postgame occasionally you get live look ins at other games in the league. Which for a local broadcast isn’t so bad.
But ultimately whomever gives the Pels the most money I’m good with, which the lack of Zion on the court impacts negotiations.
Being located in Dallas gives their studio show better access to guests analysts, like Marc Stein. Hell if you stay for postgame occasionally you get live look ins at other games in the league. Which for a local broadcast isn’t so bad.
But ultimately whomever gives the Pels the most money I’m good with, which the lack of Zion on the court impacts negotiations.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:47 am to TigerinATL
frick Bally.
I can't watch any fricking games unless I have what, one specific cable provider, which a lot of Pels fans don't have. We have Zion fricking Willamson. Next year we better get a way to watch games on Hulu/Amazon/YouTube
I can't watch any fricking games unless I have what, one specific cable provider, which a lot of Pels fans don't have. We have Zion fricking Willamson. Next year we better get a way to watch games on Hulu/Amazon/YouTube
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:49 am to TigerinATL
The whole thing just needs to be overhauled.
Whatever needs to be done, the NBA needs to get the product to a place where I can go to a website, or my cable provider, or a streaming service and purchase a season pass for my team(without requiring additional purchases) and have minimum 1080p access to every game, with pause and resume and DVR archives, and ideally, additional content catered specifically for the team. Free of antiquated blackout rules and layers of bureaucracy.
Whatever needs to be done, the NBA needs to get the product to a place where I can go to a website, or my cable provider, or a streaming service and purchase a season pass for my team(without requiring additional purchases) and have minimum 1080p access to every game, with pause and resume and DVR archives, and ideally, additional content catered specifically for the team. Free of antiquated blackout rules and layers of bureaucracy.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:12 am to whatiknowsofar
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Next year we better get a way to watch games on Hulu/Amazon/YouTube
This. Please make it available on YouTube TV or have a some other type of independent streaming option. I'd gladly pay a separate amount to stream the games.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:44 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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I’ve grown to liking Bally
You're alone with this opinion. It's such a ridiculous system with trying to watch local sports for NBA. It's not available on Cox, who is the main local cable provider. You have to have a specific provider(I think at&t and/or Directv) which isn't even available to most, AND upgrade to there sports package.
Why the frick is it taking so long to make this easily available to the public? I have no idea what these owners are thinking.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:But what part of the population has YouTubeTV compared to cable providers? I think they need to be on a widely used local media provider.
This. Please make it available on YouTube TV or have a some other type of independent streaming option. I'd gladly pay a separate amount to stream the games.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:48 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
Bally's is an issue mainly because lots of local Pels fans cannot even watch the game. How do they ever expect to build a fan base without availability?
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:50 am to TigerinATL
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Pels looking for better options
So......anything, really
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:19 pm to TigerinATL
It came out a few months ago that pretty much every franchise is done with Sinclair/Ballys and the NBA (along with MLB and NHL) were working on alternatives, possibly as a league whole.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:21 pm to NOSHAU
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But what part of the population has YouTubeTV compared to cable providers? I think they need to be on a widely used local media provider.
They need to be on multiple platforms without blackout limitations.
There is no world where if the NBA started broadcasting today that they would be strategizing around this current model.
Local cable exclusivity made a type of sense a decade ago or more when the NBA had no alternatives and the install base was steady and growing, but fewer people use it and it keeps falling, and a ton of money keeps jumping out of NBA pockets with the ease of illegal options and people smart enough to easily access it.
NBA needs to drastically rethink and reorganize how people access their content.
Whether it is literally the NBA doing it themselves, or exclusively partnering with a couple of providers to hit all the access points, but this is getting ridiculous with the cable provider gatekeeping.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:26 pm to Fun Bunch
I cut the cord years ago and get all of the TV shows I want from Netflix/Amazon/Hulu/Disney/HBO.
I'd much rather pay the $10-$20 a month for a non blacked out League Pass than $65-$85 for cable/streaming service where the main reason I'd get it is to watch the Pels.
The problem is, if they aren't getting the bundle subsidized cable money, how many subscribers do they need to get the same revenue? They're making roughly $12 million now
$10/month or $120/year = 100,000 subscribers
$20/month or $240/year = 50,000 subscribers
50,000 seems high but still doable. But you also have to factor in production costs, which I assume FSNO/BSNO was paying before. They've kept one foot in the cable bundle market because it's hard to get from their to a direct to consumer model with out significant changes to revenue or price.
I'd much rather pay the $10-$20 a month for a non blacked out League Pass than $65-$85 for cable/streaming service where the main reason I'd get it is to watch the Pels.
The problem is, if they aren't getting the bundle subsidized cable money, how many subscribers do they need to get the same revenue? They're making roughly $12 million now
$10/month or $120/year = 100,000 subscribers
$20/month or $240/year = 50,000 subscribers
50,000 seems high but still doable. But you also have to factor in production costs, which I assume FSNO/BSNO was paying before. They've kept one foot in the cable bundle market because it's hard to get from their to a direct to consumer model with out significant changes to revenue or price.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:36 pm to saintslsupels
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It's not available on Cox, who is the main local cable provider.
Didn’t Bally take over from FS New Orleans who was on channel 38?
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:44 pm to chalmetteowl
Yes
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:47 pm to TigerinATL
To me the smartest near term path would be creating a league-wide partnership with someone that has infrastructure in place to takeover/replicate the current local coverage set up but provide access across a majority of platforms and access points.
Fox Sports, NBC Sports, and ESPN/Disney come to immediate mind...ESPN already has a history of this a bit with things like the SEC Network.
You create an NBA app that people can pay for a monthly subscription for their team, a multi team package, or all access. You can also sell packages to the cable companies for legacy customers, or put access to the subscription on their platforms like many cable companies have now.
If you want to preserve national TV partners you could come up with a solution to allow some exclusive broadcast rights like today, ideally though they get a simulcast for paid subscribers the way non-US League Pass customers get.
Fox Sports, NBC Sports, and ESPN/Disney come to immediate mind...ESPN already has a history of this a bit with things like the SEC Network.
You create an NBA app that people can pay for a monthly subscription for their team, a multi team package, or all access. You can also sell packages to the cable companies for legacy customers, or put access to the subscription on their platforms like many cable companies have now.
If you want to preserve national TV partners you could come up with a solution to allow some exclusive broadcast rights like today, ideally though they get a simulcast for paid subscribers the way non-US League Pass customers get.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:50 pm to chalmetteowl
I have Cox cable in Baton Rouge just so that I can watch the Pels without fooling around with hunting streams. It's worth it for me, but I know that it's not worth it to casual fans, and growing the fan base is ultimately critical to ticket sales.
I like the Bally's broadcast team, but Bally's inability to reach deals with Hulu, YouTube TV, Sling, etc. is hurting the franchise bigtime.
I hope that whoever buys the rights wants to keep Joel, AD, and Jen.
I like the Bally's broadcast team, but Bally's inability to reach deals with Hulu, YouTube TV, Sling, etc. is hurting the franchise bigtime.
I hope that whoever buys the rights wants to keep Joel, AD, and Jen.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
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I hope that whoever buys the rights wants to keep Joel, AD, and Jen.
To me it feels like absorbing local talent is almost a pre-condition for making a transition work because it would be an enormous, near impossible undertaking for the league to transition to a new model in one offseason if it also required creating 30 new local TV studio teams from the ground up.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 1:33 pm to TigerinATL
As long as Sinclair and their anti-consumer bullshite is far away from the next deal, I’ll be happy.
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