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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:20 am to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:20 am to
This FA class is so weak, I hate the asking price I hear on pretty much every guy out there.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:21 am to
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I don’t think it was a coincidence that Hayes, Graham, Temple, and Billy were all out last night.
Not uncommon at all now that Kira has taken Graham's minutes.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:22 am to
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Bones would be interesting for us. Young player that has shown some ability. Its not like he's lit the world on fire from 3 but he's been pretty good.

As an interesting Devonte/Kira replacement I would be on board.

No idea the acquisition cost. I imagine the Nuggets want a protected pick plus (small) salary match.


Pass. He is another small guard and is nothing but a chucker. Don't see where he gets any run and supposedly he has been upset at his role in Denver.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:26 am to
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A rumored trade centered around Gary Trent Jr. and draft compensation for Jakob Poeltl has been floating around in league circles, per @TheSteinLine

Spurs wouldn’t have any use for GTJ
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:28 am to
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Spurs wouldn’t have any use for GTJ
Why not if they should decide they want his bird rights for an extension? He is only 24, so could fit a rebuild.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:28 am to
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Spurs wouldn’t have any use for GTJ



He's only 24 and they have a ton of cap space. He's definitely young enough to be apart of their rebuild
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:30 am to
They have cap space and don’t need his bird rights. Not to say they wouldn’t be interested in getting and keeping him.
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:41 am to
Raptors don’t have a lot of use for Poetel if they are doing a rebuild.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:46 am to
Trent is only 24 but he’s been in a league for a minute and has already shown he can contribute for good/playoff teams, so would he want to be a part of a rebuild or go play for a team where he can win? He’ll have a solid market in free agency.

Trent is also redundant with Devin Vassell, who is younger and already a 20 PPG scorer. And he will positively impact the Spurs on the court during the 2nd half of the season, which they absolutely don’t want. There are 3 other trash can level teams who will probably also be shamelessly tanking in the 2H. Can’t have Trent shooting you out of the best possible odds for Wemby/Scoot.

I don’t think Trent makes sense for San Antonio. They’d likely flip him for more assets.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:46 am to
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Raptors don’t have a lot of use for Poetel if they are doing a rebuild.


No, but maybe if they are insisting on Nic Claxton in a Siakam to the Nets trade they need to send a legit center back to the Nets to make it happen.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:46 am to
He would win them games they dont want to win
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:47 am to
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Raptors don’t have a lot of use for Poetel if they are doing a rebuild.


It’s not a rebuild unless they deal Siakam and Barnes. More of a season to retool, similar to what Portland tried when they gave us CJ and Nance
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:48 am to
Except they seem to be heading all in on a rebuild given the offers they are trying to get on OG and others.

Anyone not Scottie Barnes has been available for a while now.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8782 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:55 am to
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Except they seem to be heading all in on a rebuild given the offers they are trying to get on OG and others.


When I say rebuild, I mean a multi-year process where they tear everything down to the studs. Keeping a 28 year old All-NBA player like Siakam is not that. I’ll change my mind on the rebuild if they do that.

Seeing if you can sell a non-all star like OG for all-star prices does not mean they are going all in on a rebuild. Same with dangling expiring contracts like Trent and FVV, who will probably get overpaid in the offseason. That’s just good business when you’re 25-30
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:14 am to
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He would win them games they dont want to win


Maybe, but they are already a virtual lock at being in the bottom 4. If they really like Trent, not sure why that would be the mindset. It could be, as you said, they just want to reroute him to get something for Poeltl.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:19 am to
I've been playing around with the scatter plot and some other applications on that website to compare Bones Hyland to some other guys we currently have on the roster, and even some guys like Jrue or Dillon Brooks.

The thing I've found, take Jrue for example, he does it all. Rates among the league best on ball, off ball, playing the passing lanes, creating on ball turnovers, defensive versatility, you name it. Brooks is amongst the league best in all of that except the turnover aspect, where he's just about average.

Bones actually shows pretty solidly on-ball and playing the passing lanes. His numbers actually equate pretty similarly to Naji in terms of on-ball defense. The thing that separates Naji is he's very good defending off ball movement and he's in the 97th percentile in "defensive versatility" which means he can defend multiple positions. Bones is awful off-ball though, doesn't create on ball turnovers, and doesn't offer as much switchability as the others I've mentioned.

The funny thing is the program labels each player with a "defensive role" and it shows Jrue and Brooks as point of attack defenders, and Naji as a wing stopper. It shows Graham and Bones as "low activity"
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27592 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:06 pm to
Jake seems to think John Collins might be the guy we go get
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Jake seems to think John Collins might be the guy we go get

I hope to God Jake is truly the fraud that we think he is. I would hate John Collins on this team for what we’d have to give up
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Jake seems to think John Collins might be the guy we go get


I hope not. He is not worth even half of his contract. He has regressed terribly this year.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7927 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:16 pm to
Dylan Brooks is extremely annoying.
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