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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:13 pm to
I would look at getting KD

The issue comes in where they have Simmons who would have to be moved because they cant have both Ingram and Simmons
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:18 pm to
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I would look at getting KD

The issue comes in where they have Simmons who would have to be moved because they cant have both Ingram and Simmons
I don't think we're getting KD. But I don't see why Ingram/Simmons would be an issue. Ingram's great value KD. They wouldn't even have to change any schemes.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
I think it's a contract issue
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
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But I don't see why Ingram/Simmons would be an issue.

League rules, cannot have two traded players on rookie max extensions.
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2174 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

don't think we're getting KD. But I don't see why Ingram/Simmons would be an issue. Ingram's great value KD. They wouldn't even have to change any schemes.

I think it has to do with both players on rookie extensions
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:26 pm to
I would say, probably the ultimate frick you Kyrie could do to KD, who has stuck by him despite all his toxic bullshite, is if ultimately he gets to LA and Westbrook comes back and they can't find a landing spot for KD.

Most awkward half-a-season of basketball I can remember happening lol.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22238 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:26 pm to
Ah yeah. Forgot that stuff from the offseason.

Yeah, thats a no go then, because I think Simmons might have the most untradeable contract in the league.

Even if we agreed on a KD deal, I don't think Brooklyn would be able to dump Simmons. He seems to be floating in Rick Ankiel/Chuck Knoblauch territory, mentally.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
More than likely Brooklyn will just ride it out. I doubt they get a deal they are looking for.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:38 pm to
Well one thing they could do is trade KD for a shitload of picks and bad salary, and just tank for 2 years until they can get rid of Ben.

Something like Ingram to Charlotte, Hayward and picks to Nets from Charlotte and picks to Nets from Pels.

They could do that and get 5-6 1st rounders quick
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22238 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:40 pm to
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More than likely Brooklyn will just ride it out. I doubt they get a deal they are looking for.
I agree.

I do wonder if team's offers will look different, 50 games in. Are teams more, or less, willing to make huge offers now?

I don't think we'd trade for KD. But you have to believe we think about it a little harder now than we would have in the offseason, coming off of how BI played in that playoff series.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:57 pm to
Almost sounds like Kyrie may be trying to force his way to Lakers. Who else would want his toxic arse in their locker room?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:03 pm to
I have to question if the Lakers would even trade for Kyrie at this point. I know LeBron would, but if Pelinka/Buss think they can get him for free as a FA in the summer, why give up 27/29 and pick swaps which is what it would take for the Nets to even think about it. They've taken that approach in the past with multiple start players...who ended up not coming. Still, waiting for others to come and make them great is what they do.

From the Nets side, unless the Lakers put it all on the table, and/or Kyrie is planning to sit out the rest of the season, which is certainly a possibility with him, then the best course for the Nets is to do nothing and try to win a ring this year.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:06 pm to
Simmons and BI can be on Nets. Ingram was not technically a rookie max extension. Technicality of us waiting for his contract to expire. At least that is how I understand it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:07 pm to
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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine 38s

The Lakers and Mavericks are among the teams Brooklyn is expected to engage in Kyrie Irving trade talks as next Thursday's 3 PM ET trade deadline approaches, league sources say.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131426 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:25 pm to
I hope he goes to Dallas.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:36 pm to
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The Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix Suns and Dallas Mavericks have emerged as potential suitors for Brooklyn Nets All-Star starter Kyrie Irving, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

quote:

Reporting with @espn_macmahon: The Mavericks have had previous interest on Kyrie Irving and are expected to explore idea with Nets ahead of Thursday's trade deadline. Like most teams, the Mavericks have had had a reluctance to make significant offers of assets for Irving.

Seems like it may happen pretty quick, and those other teams are just there to try to get both picks from Lakers
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11473 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:39 pm to
I think the Lakers would have to trade for Irving, even this summer, just for payroll reasons. Westbrook expires, but they don't get all that space since they are a tax team. Lakers have to trade Westbrook to maximize their space. That's why I never got holding onto the picks, if they want the most cap space.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:59 pm to
I could see the Nets eventually settling for something like Irving and Harris for Westbrook and Beverly and unprotected 2027 1st rounder and a 2nd. Would get them off of Harris and salvage a 1st rounder.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:15 pm to
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could see the Nets eventually settling for something like Irving and Harris for Westbrook and Beverly and unprotected 2027 1st rounder and a 2nd. Would get them off of Harris and salvage a 1st rounder.

They could do Westbrook for Irving and Harris and save themselves a shitload of money against their tax bill.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1781 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Simmons and BI can be on Nets. Ingram was not technically a rookie max extension. Technicality of us waiting for his contract to expire. At least that is how I understand it.


Why would the right information get down voted?

LINK

The first is Brandon Ingram. While he did indeed sign a five-year extension with the New Orleans Pelicans in the 2020 offseason, he did so as a restricted free agent with Bird Rights. That did not invoke the Designated Rookie rule, so Ingram can be traded to the Nets.
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