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re: The Pels are 7-3 over their last 10. I think it’s safe to say Dejounte is 100%.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:04 am to Geauxldilocks
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:04 am to Geauxldilocks
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Amazing all these wonderful moves and we have the 6th worst record in the league
I fully expect someone with your brain capacity to blame the trades for factors outside of the trades.
Those trades caused DJ to tear his achilles, kept Trey/ Zion inured, and forced us to rely on mediocre coaching. All because trades!
If we had Dyson + CJ and no Murray/ Bey/ Queen we would be so awesome right now!
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:34 am to Dantheman504
Regardless of what we want, the Pels are basically running it back next year. I dont think Joe is savvy enough to bundle enough players to get a star here.
Missi will have to improve
Murray will have to get that synergy with Z and Trey
No faith Zion will do anything to get better as a player
The two dudes that got us to the playoffs and 49 wins a couple of years ago was Naji and Jose with Val as the focal point on offense. They killed backups and our leads grew with starters on the bench.
Those guys are now queen fears and Missi. They'll get better, and how much better will determine our success next year.
Missi will have to improve
Murray will have to get that synergy with Z and Trey
No faith Zion will do anything to get better as a player
The two dudes that got us to the playoffs and 49 wins a couple of years ago was Naji and Jose with Val as the focal point on offense. They killed backups and our leads grew with starters on the bench.
Those guys are now queen fears and Missi. They'll get better, and how much better will determine our success next year.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:55 am to whatiknowsofar
Moving Hawkins and Poole will make a huge difference in our team next year. They are supposed to our best shooters (not counting Murphy). If we replace them with decent 3/D contributors, it changes a ton of what we are and can do going forward. It's just a huge hole in our roster right now..
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:01 am to whatiknowsofar
I’m kind of tired of defending Zion myself.. but he has actually stayed very healthy this season and does appear to be staying in good shape. Being healthy heading into the offseason and not having to rehab, it’s hypothetically possible that he does improve his jumper and FT %. That’s the optimistic approach that having someone like Dejounte will push him and leave him no choice but to improve, I can still understand why some would say it ain’t happening. I’d just love to see the dude take the wide open 3s they give him.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:16 am to LSUPilot07
Y’all are gonna get fooled again.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:30 am to PrimeTime Money
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Y’all are gonna get fooled again.
Nah. This board for the most part has about 10% of its posters thinking this core can work, 2% want to move the team, and 88% realize our ceiling is play in at best with this core and a good head coach.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:35 am to brmark70816
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Moving Hawkins and Poole will make a huge difference in our team next year.
No it won't. Zion has to go. I just don't get how someone can be a Pelicans fan at least since the time Zion has been here and not see that until we move Zion, we are not winning anything.
Sure, Poole 100% needs to go, and I like Zion 10x more than Poole, but it is much more important for Zion to go than Poole.
Poole is a negative asset and moving him we will get nothing in return. Moving Zion after a relatively healthy season we can get actual assets that can actually make the team better.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:34 am to spaghettioeauxs
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If we replace them with decent 3/D contributors
I would be ok with just the 3 part of a 3/D
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:58 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Moving Hawkins and Poole will make a huge difference in our team next year.
No it won't. Zion has to go. I just don't get how someone can be a Pelicans fan at least since the time Zion has been here and not see that until we move Zion, we are not winning anything
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Poole is a negative asset and moving him we will get nothing in return
Well no shite, if we take 30mil from Poole and do nothing with it, nothing will happen. Some real insight.
Murray was the first person we got that actually compliments Zion and his playing style. Everyone else was literally plug in and figure it out. That's what led to years of point Zion to begin with.
This is a different team because we are actually building a real roster that compliments each other.
Poole/ Hawk compliment the bench. Take that $40mil and turn it into someone that compliments our players and I guarantee you something happens.
Throw in a package of Poole/ Hawk/ Herb/ picks and we definitely do something.
Idk how someone can be a Pelicans fans and actually think things are the same as 4-5 years ago. Its like y'all hope Zion gets hurt to prove your point instead of actually seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm not saying that keeping him is the best move but you aren't a Pels fan if you are openly rooting against him.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:14 pm to Dantheman504
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Poole/ Hawk compliment the bench. Take that $40mil and turn it into someone that compliments our players and I guarantee you something happens.
I don’t think anyone disagrees that taking our two worst players and turning them into positive players would make our team better.
But no one is trading anything of value for Poole. Maybe if we attach future picks we can get a decent player on a questionable long term contract back.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:21 pm to Dantheman504
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Idk how someone can be a Pelicans fans and actually think things are the same as 4-5 years ago. Its like y'all hope Zion gets hurt to prove your point instead of actually seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm not saying that keeping him is the best move but you aren't a Pels fan if you are openly rooting against him.
Who is rooting for Z to get hurt? Who is rooting against him?
Is pointing out his limited tool set considered rooting against him to you?
Some ppl want Poole / Hawkins gone, is that rooting against them or wanting to improve the roster ?
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:27 pm to Stamps74
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Who is rooting for Z to get hurt? Who is rooting against him?
Are you serious? Majority of Pels fans would 100% rather see Zion fail so that we can trade him > see him get better and know that we are "stuck" with him. Just look above you in this thread. It certainly isn't the definition of "rooting for him".
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:51 pm to ned nederlander
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I don’t think anyone disagrees that taking our two worst players and turning them into positive players would make our team better.
But no one is trading anything of value for Poole. Maybe if we attach future picks we can get a decent player on a questionable long term contract back.
You could also maybe end up with a Bey type player. There's a good chance we would attach picks/ assets with him to get a better return.
The value of Poole is not in his abilities but the 30mil salary that we can use. Poole/ Herb/ Hawk means we can take back any player in the NBA. We shouldn't care about cost if it actually makes our team better, potential higher, and adds competitiveness.
How many years are y'all cool with being miserable before you except that we should use any asset possible to make our team better?
It can be Herb/ Poole/ 3 1sts/ 3 swaps/ Potatoes and it shouldn't matter as long as we are actually in the playoffs and competing.
We aren't thinking "what is Poole and Hawk worth" we are thinking "what else will it take to trade this 40mil salary and get this guy".
I also could 100% see us ending up with Zach LaVine.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:26 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Y’all are gonna get fooled again.
Yup, we’re less than 4 months away from many posters predicting 50 wins and playoff season ahead.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:41 pm to Dantheman504
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Idk how someone can be a Pelicans fans and actually think things are the same as 4-5 years ago.
Four yeas ago we were in the playoffs
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Its like y'all hope Zion gets hurt to prove your point instead of actually seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm not saying that keeping him is the best move but you aren't a Pels fan if you are openly rooting against him.
What in the actual frick are you talking about you dumbass. I'm not rooting against Zion and never have. All I've said all along is we need to trade him. Literally in the post you responded to I said I like him, certainly better than Poole. We just need his arse gone and it's good for us if he's healthy.
Damn your retarded arse needs to get off the bord. If you and geauxdilocks could go it's go a long way to making this board decent.
But sure let me just buy in to all your wonderful insight, like you thinking at the beginning of the year we had a team with four potential all stars this year
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:52 pm to Macintosh
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Run it back!
I know there’s people who aren’t saying this sarcastically which is quite funny
Without our first rounder our options are limited.
We could try to move Zion, who won't get us too terribly much and will leave a huge hole.
We could try to deal Herb, and get a modest return possibly. I love Herb but we can replace a lot of what he does and his real value is on a better team.
Murray probably won't get too much at all and he's shown to be good for us.
Trey is a guy who is emerging and we won't get adequate value for him unless we get a legit haul (more than what Bane got)
Poole is extremely negative so moving him will cost us first rounders
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Doubt they will be able to move Poole or Hawk. Best thing they can do is extend Bey, waive Looney, and use the MLE to find a center and a shooter.
Other than that, you hope they find another McGowens.
Other than that, you hope they find another McGowens.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:37 pm to supe12sta12z
The value of Poole and Hawk is that they are expirings next year. But that could also require waiting until the deadline to dump them unless attaching Herb (don't like that personally) or other positive assets in the off season.
Though isn't Hawk a team option next year?
Though isn't Hawk a team option next year?
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:14 pm to Dantheman504
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You could also maybe end up with a Bey type player.
Would do cartwheels if this happened
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There's a good chance we would attach picks/ assets with him to get a better return.
I am not on board with this. Trading away our first this year (and the pacers pick, and the worst of our two picks next year) was a blunder. We aren’t a decent player away and I’d rather watch us fully reset and accumulate picks than trade future picks for guys that don’t make us real contenders.
I am excited about having Murray and a slightly more developed Fears running the offense next year.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:59 pm to ned nederlander
It's really insane that Murray is doing what he's doing so damn early. He's already carrying the team on his back tonight against the rockets.
After 8 games, his statline is pretty unreal.
19.8 points
5.5 rebounds
5.3 assists
1.8 steals
in 27 minutes.
54.7% FG
35.1% 3PT FG
82.9% FT
And these numbers are getting better the more he plays.
After 8 games, his statline is pretty unreal.
19.8 points
5.5 rebounds
5.3 assists
1.8 steals
in 27 minutes.
54.7% FG
35.1% 3PT FG
82.9% FT
And these numbers are getting better the more he plays.
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