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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:58 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:58 am to
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THIS IS THE frickING SAME THING AS THIS

No, it's not.

If he improves his shooting, they still project him to be a dunker primarily and may be able to hit double-digit scoring. That's nothing like Chet, or a slightly lesser version of Chet.

Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:59 am to
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I'm not even crazy about Mobley. So if that's his upside hard pass

That’s not what it says, it says Mobley right now is his comparison, if he develops that 3 point shot alot of teams think he can then he will start being compared to guys like Chet. In other words he will immediately come into the league and be a great shot blocker/defender/rim runner, but he has to develop a shot to go further, which may or may not happen.

So basically he’s Mobley with upside is what they’re saying
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:01 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:00 am to
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Some rando writter throwing out a trade is smoke now lol. Just like I thought, total bs…

Have trouble reading whole posts huh?

Like I said, i’m not going search through twitter, you fricknuts can do it yourself
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I'd be livid if we made any of the proposed trades you listed.

So you would be livid at a return of Murray, Hunter, Avdija and Reed in exchange for Ingram, Nance and Herb? Or keeping nance and sending Hunter for Avdija?

You need to reevaluate your life and your knowledge if that’s the case.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:08 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:01 am to
Sarr just does nothing elite.

He's not strong and gets pushed around. Not a great shooter. He has potential for sure but he's never going to be an All Pro or probably even an All Star.

I'm not a homer at all, but I would not want to pay that dude No. 1 money.

No one in this draft is worth No. 1 pick money.

I'm willing to give up Herb and Ingram for a legit star or legit package of future picks NOT in this draft, which is arse.

Hunter and Sarr do nothing for me. Don't want to pay either.

I'd rather just trade Ingram for Murray straight up.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:02 am to
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Please name me a 6'2" white guy who turned into a really good nba player.


You serious? Mark price, John Stockton, Steve Nash…

Hope you were joking.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:02 am to
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When will you folks learn the other team has to want to trade their assets too. You can't force ATL to take whatever YOU think is the best value. ?



When the frick will you folks learn that Herb is essentially our most valuable/ protected player.

Just like we can't "force" ATL to take assets, they can't "force" us to trade Herb.

We can get 1-2 young players and 1-2 picks for BI pretty easily.

Y'all are acting like we are FORCED to trade Herb who is one of the most desired players in the NBA

Ohhh ATL WANTS Herb? So do the other 29 teams in the NBA.

We actually HAVE him. Jackasses....
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:07 am to
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Ahhh, so because he’s white he’s going to be a bust?




More so b/c he's 6'2"
When you're that small, to reach an all star level you need to be really really really special, and i seriously doubt he is.
His ceiling isn't CP3 or DeAron Fox or even Tyrese Maxey.
He's likely a good bench player. That's his most likely position in the league.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:07 am to
"What can we get for BI to make our team better"

"We know BI can fetch assets and picks but whats our best move here?"

"Oohh I know lets also trade Herb for the hell of it"

Idiots.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:08 am to
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You serious? Mark price, John Stockton, Steve Nash…



and you see Reed Sheppard turning into one of the best PG's of all time, even though he doesn't play PG and is 6'2"?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:10 am to
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Have trouble reading whole posts huh? Like I said, i’m not going search through twitter, you fricknuts can do it yourself


I’m not the one throwing out the bs and linking an article to someone that throws out a trade and says it’s what the wolves should be doing to improve.

I do remember reports of Griff being interested in getting Ball and possibly sending BI to Charlotte. Not sure whose side that came from but doubtful Griff would move BI back then.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:13 am to
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and you see Reed Sheppard turning into one of the best PG's of all time, even though he doesn't play PG and is 6'2"?


No but you said name you a white player under 6’2 that turned out good, I gave you three of the best all time…
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17650 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:13 am to
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More so b/c he's 6'2"

So is Curry, and Shep is an elite shooter like Curry. 52% from 3 in college doesn’t happen accidentally.

Really all Shep needs to do is learn to be smarter with the ball in his hands, but he already has a 2/1 assist to turnover ratio, and he is elite at jumping passes averaging 2.5 steals a game.

Saying his ceiling is a bench player is just, I don’t know, a horrible take?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:16 am to
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Just like we can't "force" ATL to take assets, they can't "force" us to trade Herb.


It's pretty much common knowledge that Atlanta feels the need to move one of Murray or Trae. I don't think they'll trade Trae because nobody will pay close to what the Hawks want considering his red flags. That means they have to take the best offer for Murray. Who else is including a piece as good as BI in a Murray trade? Nobody. The Pels should not be the team to blink here.

And if they can't get Murray then hopefully they have Garland in their back pocket. I think getting a package that includes any of Trae/Murray/Garland in a BI trade is a good outcome.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:22 am to
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When the frick will you folks learn that Herb is essentially our most valuable/ protected player.


Bro you are off your rocker if you believe that
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30304 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:34 am to
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So you would be livid at a return of Murray, Hunter, Avdija and Reed in exchange for Ingram, Nance and Herb?



uh yeah, i'd be very mad at that.

Hunter is a neutral to negative asset. He doesn't make us better. We get worse by swapping Herb out for Hunter.
Avdija is a bench player, so who gives a shite. That's not what i'm interested in with a BI/Herb trade.
and i've already told you I don't like Reed, or anyone else we'd pick at 2 or 3.

I'm looking at next year. Murray in BI/Herb out. We didn't get better, and our only hope to get better in the future is for a 6'2" white guy to become an allstar as a shooting guard.





If BI/Herb goes out, Devin Booker should be coming in.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:35 am to
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No but you said name you a white player under 6’2 that turned out good, I gave you three of the best all time…




congrats. That'll make us a better team next year. Thanks for your input.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:40 am to
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, it says Mobley right now is his comparison

Mobley right now is the comparison for his apex.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:42 am to
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So is Curry, and Shep is an elite shooter like Curry




Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476121 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:43 am to
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It's pretty much common knowledge that Atlanta feels the need to move one of Murray or Trae. I don't think they'll trade Trae because nobody will pay close to what the Hawks want considering his red flags. That means they have to take the best offer for Murray. Who else is including a piece as good as BI in a Murray trade? Nobody. The Pels should not be the team to blink here.

100%. This has always been my stance.

Plus, we already know roughly what teams were offering for Murray at the deadline.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:43 am to
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Mobley right now is the comparison for his apex.



If current Mobley was in this draft and I could trade the pick for future picks/players I would.

Mobley will never be a franchise player IMO. Not worthy of a No. 1 pick just like everyone else in this draft.

If Sarr's ceiling is current Mobley, that's a hard pass to spend a No. 1 pick and No. 1 money on.

Mobley is pretty good. Not even close to All Star level.
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