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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:43 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:43 pm to Epic Cajun
Can you all start another thread to have your stupid argument? This is a complete waste of space. And for the record, BI’s per 36 last year was 26, 6.1, and 5.6. He averaged 25.3 his first year with the Pels and 24.9 the second. If you want to have an actual basketball conversation using stats, especially in comparison situations, you should be using per 36. And BI has been very good for the Pels, no one should be arguing otherwise.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:19 pm to PELsu
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Can you all start another thread to have your stupid argument? This is a complete waste of space. And for the record, BI’s per 36 last year was 26, 6.1, and 5.6. He averaged 25.3 his first year with the Pels and 24.9 the second. If you want to have an actual basketball conversation using stats, especially in comparison situations, you should be using per 36. And BI has been very good for the Pels, no one should be arguing otherwise.
This post is just as stupid as the arguments you dont like. Inflating his stats per 36 I found is a silly concept mainly because it’s automatically assuming a player will play that way for 36 minutes- which they never do.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:45 pm to Pels_Yaz
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This post is just as stupid as the arguments you dont like. Inflating his stats per 36 I found is a silly concept mainly because it’s automatically assuming a player will play that way for 36 minutes- which they never do.
This completely misses the purpose and shows a lack of understanding of per 36 and likely stats as a whole. But I believe you have said this before.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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BI and a bunch of shite for Trae? Franchise-altering disaster potential
Griff has burned through a first for Steven Adams, a first for Devontae Graham, then numerous seconds to get off Graham, and the #4 overall pick to draft frickin Jax Hayes. And let’s not forget the other high mid first for Kira.
So three first round picks all in the top halves of drafts totally blown.
The way Griff has blown through assets, I could give two shits if he has to add a couple firsts to bring in an actual number 1 option to pair with Zion.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:29 pm to PELsu
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This completely misses the purpose and shows a lack of understanding of per 36 and likely stats as a whole. But I believe you have said this before.
Ok lets use your theory. Per 36 in 2023-24: Zion was ranked 21, and Trae was 23. BI was ranked 52. RJ Barett and Simons were ranked above him.
So using per 36 BI was not even top 50 this year. So you agree then per 36 BI is a significantly worse player than Zion and Trae this year and RJ freaking Barrett was better?
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:11 am to Pels_Yaz
I think it's increasingly obvious that the Pels aren't going to give Brandon a 4-year, $208 million extension. His value is higher if you trade him this summer rather than keeping him on a one-year deal and dealing him at the deadline.
The most logical trading partner is the Cavs. Their duos of Garland and Mitchell and Allen and Mobley don't work together. Brandon would make sense for them.
I think Mitchell will resign making Garland the odd-man out. I think Mobley is their future at the pivot meaning Allen will be traded. If we can get one, but not both, I'd probably take Allen + either LeVert and a 1st rounder or Strus and a 1st rounder. I then try to build out a 3-team trade shipping LeVert + picks + Dyson or Jordan to ATL for DeJounte Murray.
If we could end up with Murray and Allen for Brandon + Dyson + two first rounders, that would be a great offseason...
The most logical trading partner is the Cavs. Their duos of Garland and Mitchell and Allen and Mobley don't work together. Brandon would make sense for them.
I think Mitchell will resign making Garland the odd-man out. I think Mobley is their future at the pivot meaning Allen will be traded. If we can get one, but not both, I'd probably take Allen + either LeVert and a 1st rounder or Strus and a 1st rounder. I then try to build out a 3-team trade shipping LeVert + picks + Dyson or Jordan to ATL for DeJounte Murray.
If we could end up with Murray and Allen for Brandon + Dyson + two first rounders, that would be a great offseason...
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:11 am to Pels_Yaz
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This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 12:13 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:17 am to Pels_Yaz
I was telling you guys about a week or 2 ago that the gap between BI and RJ is less than you think, and RJ is still young and would fit better on this team and with Zion.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:29 am to 3PieceSpicy
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I was telling you guys about a week or 2 ago that the gap between BI and RJ is less than you think, and RJ is still young and would fit better on this team and with Zion.
Absolutely no one cares about RJ Barrett. The Knicks traded him snd Quickley for OG- none of these guys are close to all stars. Please name me one thing RJ is remotely very good to elite at? If we trade BI for RJ Barrett- they should fire Griff on the spot.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:01 am to New City Champ
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I think it's increasingly obvious that the Pels aren't going to give Brandon a 4-year, $208 million extension
What gives you that idea? The multiple reports that the Pels aren’t going to give him a max extension?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:32 am to Epic Cajun
Shamit tweeted this out. No picks involved. If the Cavs hire Borrego and he doesn't want BI, and if ATL's price for Trae is too high, then I still like this idea better than the other Hawks trades.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:43 am to GOP_Tiger
No picks i would definitely do that.
Collins gives you a good backup behind Zion and can play the 5 in closing lineups.
Also if we could get Cleveland to bite, we could expand this and take back Allen and send them Dyson and 21. Money would work
CJ/Sexton/Jose
Herb/Hawk/Ryan
Trey/Vet FA
Zion/Collins/EJ
Allen/Collins/Karlo
Collins gives you a good backup behind Zion and can play the 5 in closing lineups.
Also if we could get Cleveland to bite, we could expand this and take back Allen and send them Dyson and 21. Money would work
CJ/Sexton/Jose
Herb/Hawk/Ryan
Trey/Vet FA
Zion/Collins/EJ
Allen/Collins/Karlo
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:06 pm to GOP_Tiger
That is a shite tier trade, IMO
We better be getting picks if the return is Kessler, Sexton, and a negative asset in John Collins.
We better be getting picks if the return is Kessler, Sexton, and a negative asset in John Collins.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 12:55 pm to Epic Cajun
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That is a shite tier trade, IMO
We better be getting picks if the return is Kessler, Sexton, and a negative asset in John Collins.
I disagree. I think that's a fair trade.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:08 pm to ghost2most
Yeah, I don’t see Collins as a negative asset, didn’t see him as one in Atlanta and I was hoping we would trade for him to be our closing 5 then.
37% on 3’s, 8.5 rebounds, 1 blocked shot, that’s the exact type of closing 5 we’ve been begging for next to Zion.
37% on 3’s, 8.5 rebounds, 1 blocked shot, that’s the exact type of closing 5 we’ve been begging for next to Zion.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:12 pm to ghost2most
I'm not a big BI fan at all, but I would be very disappointed if that was the return on a BI trade.
A part time center, a sixth man, and a negative asset that I guess can be used a salary filler in another trade? And we get zero picks back?
I would rather trade BI for JA and LeVert straight up, and that is not something that I would be interested in
A part time center, a sixth man, and a negative asset that I guess can be used a salary filler in another trade? And we get zero picks back?
I would rather trade BI for JA and LeVert straight up, and that is not something that I would be interested in
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:22 pm to Epic Cajun
I can understand people being attracted to a trade like that. You're still keeping all pick assets along with CJ's salary and all your young players for future trades or moves, and you're filling positions of concern: Rim protecting Center, small ball big, and bench guard scorer. In some ways it fits your team better.
But you're still trading 3 Quarters for a dollar it seems
But you're still trading 3 Quarters for a dollar it seems
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
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But you're still trading 3 Quarters for a dollar it seems
if you're going to trade the best player in the trade (by far), you gotta get picks back. No way around it. you gotta refill the war chest.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:27 pm to htran90
That's the problem with trading with the Jazz
Ainge is never going to offer you value, ever.
Ainge is never going to offer you value, ever.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:41 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ainge is never going to offer you value, ever.
That's why you don't trade with that fricker
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