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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE

Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
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If we did a sign and trade, Markannen’s deal would have been for multiple years guaranteed.

You know I was just thinking and why would salary have to be included? The whole point was CHI had the cap room with the salaries they sent. Nothing had to change on that end.

We would have gotten the trade exception regardless. The issue was that we got no picks of note.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:34 pm to
Are you forgetting that Chicago had the ability to clear the cap space if they truly wanted to?

And nobody else was giving him a higher offer, and we sure as hell wasn’t going to meet his asking price. I really do not know why y’all are still harping on this though when the Ball trade was pretty much the reason we got CJ and Nance
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:35 pm to
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We basically had to get lucky and have Tim Hardaway Jr and Spencer Dinwiddie turn down our 20 mil plus a year, Lowry turn down our $30 mil a year,

These (attempted) moves were much worse than getting shite value for Lonzo, FOR THE RECORD
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:36 pm to
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I agree, It worked out, but I’d say it was like a 15-20% chance of it working out. Just like how Griff loves to move down in the draft, I’d say moving down in the draft works out around that same % for the team moving down.

Griffs compounding bad moves forced him to take these long shots, but he’s just been lucky that they worked out last year.

I'm sure you'd be a better GM than Griff
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Are you forgetting that Chicago had the ability to clear the cap space if they truly wanted to?

How?


And remember it likely had to be done day 1 of free agency. I'm not sure Lonzo was going to wait around to see if maybe Chicago could make room for him. I'm also not sure they could have.

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And nobody else was giving him a higher offer,
Not the Pelicans problem. Then he doesn't get a higher offer, no big deal for the Pels.
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and we sure as hell wasn’t going to meet his asking price
Not relevant to the return we should get
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I really do not know why y’all are still harping on this though when the Ball trade was pretty much the reason we got CJ and Nance
Also not really relevant. That all worked out, that doesn't mean I still don't want a 1st that we clearly should have gotten.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:42 pm to
You know a team that I think may be a dark horse to go after John Collins is Dallas

Hardaway, Kleber, Bertans, Powell all guys they could move for him

Depends on what Atlanta wants in return...
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:43 pm to
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I'm sure you'd be a better GM than Griff


Well I was on record saying I would have drafted Garland at 4 and was totally against the Adams trade. Also said I would have traded up to get Haliburton while it’s been reported Griff woukd have traded him if he slipped to us.

With Garland on board, no need to even make the CJ trade. So….
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:44 pm to
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How


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If the Bulls go the cap-space and offer sheet route and want to start Ball near or north of the $20 million that league sources said he’s seeking, the Bulls would have to renounce their free agents — which includes Daniel Theis and Garrett Temple on top of Markkanen and others — plus trade one of Satoranský or Young or waive both of them before their contracts become fully guaranteed.
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:45 pm to
Wait you’re actually serious
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Kevin Durant has requested a trade out of Brooklyn, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.


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Brooklyn Nets GM Sean Marks is working with Kevin Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman on finding a trade for the franchise star, Kleiman tells ESPN.


Spicy meatball alert
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20809 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:51 pm to
Utah is trading Royce O'Neale to Brooklyn for a first-round pick
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:51 pm to
Holy shite can we take this crap to another thread or something?

Last two pages have been back and forth about past stuff.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13481 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
shite is about to hit the fan.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37426 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Well I was on record saying I would have drafted Garland at 4 and was totally against the Adams trade. Also said I would have traded up to get Haliburton while it’s been reported Griff woukd have traded him if he slipped to us.

With Garland on board, no need to even make the CJ trade. So….

I'm sure you know every piece of information that Griff knew when making these decisions too, huh? It's so arrogant to think that you can do a better job than someone else when you're working with probably less than half of the information that the other person is working with.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
Ooooh I'd love the pels to get in a Durant trade as a third team.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:54 pm to
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Kevin Durant has requested a trade out of Brooklyn, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.


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Brooklyn Nets GM Sean Marks is working with Kevin Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman on finding a trade for the franchise star, Kleiman tells ESPN.


Spicy meatball alert

Wait, what? After Kyrie opted in to stay there with him? What a dumpster fire. Send he and Kyrie to the Knicks (keep him out of the West).
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:54 pm to
Atlanta supposedly made a big offer for him before they traded for Murray.

Miami is another one you think has to be in on it, along with Portland and the Knicks.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37426 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:55 pm to
I wish Sean Marks would just responded with, "Noted".

You're under contract for 4 more years, you want a trade? Sorry Charlie.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104996 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:57 pm to
Only two pieces of note we can get on the margins from Brooklyn are Seth Curry and Cam Thomas.

Don’t want Kyrie or Simmons. Don’t want Joe Harris. Not sure what they would want in exchange for Durant or if he would want to be here.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:57 pm to
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As the Nets prepare to move one of the most valuable trade assets ever on the market, the entire roster will available to discuss in deals, sources tell ESPN. Teams have been calling on Durant, and the Nets will certainly look for a historic return on players and draft picks.

Brooklyn is about to blow it up
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