The (deserved) melt on Pels twitter last night and today is something to behold

This better be the last season we suck. Or else the future of this franchise is in trouble


It’s hurts more seeing Memphis improve each year with their young rebuilding team when they had lesser valued draft picks than us. They’ve nailed every hire, draft selection, everything so far. Meanwhile we still look like we don’t know what we’re doing

Not only SVG... Griffin and Langdon are a big part of the collapse... Griffin secures all kinds of draft picks and choosing draft picks very unwisely, in my opinion (e.g., 4 draft picks last season turned into 1 pick, Kira Lewis; besides Zion, 3 first round picks from the past 2 seasons remain non-starters and sometimes enter the game players!)

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Don't be so dramatic.

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really don’t think I’m being dramatic at all. Just a fan who’s witnessed my team squander years with other stars that we had and not seeing a ton of great decision making by Griff so far outside of the two big trades

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Don't be so dramatic. We will get a high draft pick and better complementary talent eventually.

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Could copy/paste this post since 2010 and not know what year its meant for.

Jesus this board has become insufferable.

Just bouncing from extreme to extreme based on the latest game or streak.

People came into the season with insanely stupid expectations and now people are going to the other end of stupidity after those expectations weren’t met.

Some context people: Griff is not god, he hasn’t made all the right moves, but he also isn’t trash either just because he didn’t turn out to be the lord and savior year two. And while I would have preferred(obviously) we commit to Wood year one instead of the plethora of bottom feeders we chose over him, and stayed at 4 to grab either Hunter or Garland, am not sold on Adams as the right center to be committing to for three years, JJ was still a good signing who should fetch a late first, the Jrue trade only looks better with how the Bucks still don’t really feel like they should be favorites and Giannis is likely gone before that contract expires, Kira looks to be an excellent pick last year, Adams has played well enough that he should be a neutral asset while providing leadership, and we have a real chance at adding a top 5 pick in a loaded draft to this roster.

As for SVG, maybe we should look into bringing in Rick Carlisle, Nick Nurse, or Erik Spoelstra, bring in Masai to replace Griff...Oh wait, their teams are below .500 and hovering around 7-12 also. My bad, they’re all old washed trash losing to bottom feeders like the Rockets, Hornets, and Booker-less Suns as well...and they don’t have the excuse of lack of coaching continuity.

Or, IDK, just a thought, this roster was always problematic and given Griffs comments to The Ringer were actually from the start of the year, he knew it wasn’t an ideal roster from the get, but he’s not going to force things for a one year horizon and it was always the case that the play in tournament was the upper bound of where realistic expectations should be, and that it assumed so many things needed to go right and perfect, and that it was always the case that with lack of continuity and a tough schedule and less than ideal roster, this struggle was a very likely outcome.

If the team was nothing but young players and we were clearly in full rebuild then people wouldn't be complaining as much.

Expectations.

Instead, Griffin has tried to have it both ways, with veterans, and a veteran coach, and young players NOT playing. And we stink.

If you're expectations are to stink and you stink, that's ok. You focus on development and so on.

If your expectations are to be a playoff contender and you stink. wellll

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So we should be a borderline playoff team by the time Zion is on his last year of his rookie deal, and most likely working in a new coach, perfect

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and Zion will be well on his way to forcing his way out

Very well said

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Spacing has nothing to do with turnovers and ability or the want to play defense

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Except it sort of does.

More shots going in means more opportunities to get into a set defense. Easier offense means more reserved energy for defense. Better spacing means wider passing lanes and less congestion.

I'm not saying SVG is the answer, or the correct hire, my votes simply still out because I think it's rather absurd to write these narratives under the conditions the season has happened in, and in the context of this roster.

I made the point elsewhere but look at The Heat, Raptors, and Mavericks. Top 5 coaches and all with records near ours. And if it would be absurd to write off those teams and demand blood from their coaching and FO staff, I don't really know how it is fair to melt over a Pels roster and team that inarguably had more roster question marks, more youth development to work through, and less continuity than those guys.

And here's a thought experiment, what would you expect Griff to say publicly if he did deep down know the playoffs weren't the goal this year? Because I don't think it is any different than what you heard before the season and today. And I think everyone should have seen the writing on the wall when the Jrue trade happened. Thats not a win this year move, it's an "I recognize our real time table is in a future past Jrue's likely time here."

Sucks how Jaxson Hayes got a good form but won’t practice shooting outside the paint. I just don’t see it from him wanting to be great, he seems more of the guy just wanting high light dunk reels.


I also don’t think Adams is a bad pick up. Guy is a good PNR player, sets amazing screens and does all the dirty work. SVG system isn’t using him like that. Coaches got to play to their player strengths instead of playing their own scheme.