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re: The Athletic source: Gentry will be given chance to coach healthy team

Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:00 am to
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5381 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:00 am to
I said before and i will say it again. Gentry will still be the coach at the beginning of next season.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29694 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:03 am to
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The Pels have the 2nd most games lost due to injury this season

The Pels led the NBA last season in games lost due to injury.

The Pels led the NBA 2 seasons ago in games lost due to injury.

The Pels had the 3rd most games lost due to injury 3 seasons ago.

The Pels led the league in games lost due to injury 4 seasons ago



Ladee frickin da.

I don't want to hear it. It's a lame arse excuse. I could care less about minor players missing games. Darius Miller missing every game isn't something to cry about and use as a crutch and say ( in a bitchy arse voice) "but we have the 2nd most games lost due to injury."
I don't want to hear any stats about last year. It was a failed year from the start b/c of bitch arse AD.
the year before AD missed a grand total of 7 games. Jrue missed a grand total of 1 game. Cousins went down and was replaced with Mirotic. They combined to miss 4 games. Any other injury after that makes no difference, as the core played the majority of the season.
The year before that, AD missed 7 games, Jrue missed 15. There were no other major injures. But lets count Ajinca missing the whole season and Asik missing 51 games and use the injury excuse b/c we had the 3rd most games lost due to injury that year.



I just easily laid out 3 other teams that are in the playoffs that are missing much more talent than we are.


Shut up about the god damn injury excuses.

Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:37 am to
That’s funny! Like the pelicans have ever been healthy!!
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:40 am to
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I just easily laid out 3 other teams that are in the playoffs that are missing much more talent than we are.


Shut up about the god damn injury excuses.


Injuries + new players (6) playing together for the first time + playing in the West with one of the toughest schedules to start the season.

These are excuses, but also a reality.

Wich one of the three teams you named had to deal with all three issues I laid out?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12812 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:55 am to
The Suns fool!
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29694 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Wich one of the three teams you named had to deal with all three issues I laid out?



Phoenix is in the exact same boat pretty much, yet they aren't anywhere near the level we are at.
Star young big out in Ayton (Zion). offseason big Baynes acquired out for the majority of the season (Favors). Offseason starter acquired Rubio out for a few games (Lonzo lol or Hart).
New coach, which we don't have. Only 2 returning starters, and one of them is Oubre who was only there for less than half the year. Saric is new, Rubio is new, Baynes is new, Kaminsky is new, Cam Johnson is a rookie.
Booker, Oubre, Tyler Johnson and Mikal Bridges are the only returning players on the team that play.


Suns have played the 14th hardest schedule.
They have 4 losses by 4 or less, we have 5.
What the Suns don't have is an embarrassing 46 point arse drumming.


Again, enough with the injury excuse. I don't want to hear it. Everyone else finds ways to deal with them. We always look for stats and other crap to defend the injury issue and our pitiful record.
Take Darius Millers missing time out of the equation and tell me where we stand in this bull shite injury list. Okafor missing time b/c of an "ankle injury" isn't really a big deal either, b/c he sucks. Adding up injuries by crappy players to use as an excuse that we are injured is a pussy move.
Jrue is fine. Redick is fine. Ingram is fine. If we want to take something from the injuries, it's that Jrue isn't good enough to be the leader of the team.
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:16 pm to
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The Suns fool!


Strength of Schedule so far

Nope. Their schedule so far has been middle of the road.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20657 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Maybe this is Griffin's way of tanking without saying it?


Every loss, half the new threads are "Fire Gentry" and the other half are "start to tank," and I see some of the same people saying both. It cracks me up.
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Okafor missing time b/c of an "ankle injury" isn't really a big deal either, b/c he sucks. Adding up injuries by crappy players to use as an excuse that we are injured is a pussy move.


When you don't have another playable big. losing Okafor is a big deal. Having to rely on a foul-prone rookie to start and play heavy minutes when the original plan was for him to develop in the G-league is a big deal.

When you have to put Jrue on A. Davis down the stretch, you have a problem.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25907 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:28 pm to
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For a guy so ridiculously good at PR as Griffin, retaining Gentry was a massive, colossal blunder.


It was Ms. Gayle’s call. She wants to move him to an administrative/ambassador role after he is done coaching. Unless some miracle happens, I expect to see that happen next season.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12812 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:30 pm to
The fricking Suns started Kaminsky and beat our arse at home. This apologist crap is hilarious. fricking Mavs reserves took our starters to the toilet and shite in them in the 2 games over a 5 day stretch a few days ago.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29694 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:37 pm to
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When you don't have another playable big. losing Okafor is a big deal. Having to rely on a foul-prone rookie to start and play heavy minutes when the original plan was for him to develop in the G-league is a big deal.




Well that's the GM's fault. I said it many times in the offseason that we needed another big, yet not many here thought anything of that. I made an offseason thread asking why so many people just assumed Melli was going to be Mirotic, and that we shouldn't be expecting quality play from him, and look where we are with him, getting DNP's and single digit minute outings while shooting 32% from 3. We knew we wanted to develop Jaxson in the G-League, but we still went into the season with Zion/Favors/Okafor as our only bigs.
I like Okafor, but he doesn't fit what Gentry wants to do at all, and it makes him almost unplayable, even though i think he's a decent enough player that deserves minutes on most teams b/c he's an elite individual post scorer as a back up.

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When you have to put Jrue on A. Davis down the stretch, you have a problem.


Had we let Jrue guard AD the whole game, we probably would have won. AD's pussy arse would have resorted to taking fade away 15 footers all night, which i would gladly let him take all day. AD was 2-12 that night outside the paint. kenrich didn't want to body up on him and keep him from recieving the ball in the paint, which resulted in tons of easy buckets. Jrue is strong, and was capable of making AD catch the ball further out, and forced tougher shots.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:00 pm to
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The Pels have the 2nd most games lost due to injury this season

The Pels led the NBA last season in games lost due to injury.

The Pels led the NBA 2 seasons ago in games lost due to injury.

The Pels had the 3rd most games lost due to injury 3 seasons ago.

The Pels led the league in games lost due to injury 4 seasons ago.


Almost as if players don’t want to play hurt for this disaster of a franchise
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13471 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:14 pm to
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FO sees injuries as valid excuse.

quote:
"A source with knowledge of the Pelicans’ front office thinking made it clear that the rash of injuries is seen as a significant reason to give Gentry and his staff some cover and, eventually, a chance to coach this team once it gets healthy. "

How many times as we seen that excuse?
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2154 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:10 pm to
So, is it the style of play that Gentry is utilizing that is leading to the injuries?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29694 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 2:43 pm to
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So, is it the style of play that Gentry is utilizing that is leading to the injuries?



The injury totals are misleading. Ajinca and Asik drove the numbers up previously, as well as Solo. Them not playing made us better. Miller is helping drive it up this year as well as Okafor, both of whom would get a lot of DNP Coaches Decisions. Lonzo has sat out games for a tummy ache or something stupid like that, and we've been better without him as i stated before, 4-4 without him, 2-13 with him.

The core of our team, over the last few years, has been relatively healthy. All these role player injuries adding up should not correlate to being such a shitty team.
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:14 pm to
The team is struggling right now, that's undeniable. However, their injuries and a tough schedule have contributed greatly to their lack of success.

I hate injuries and am personally tired of this being a constant theme with this team, but it cannot be dismissed like some think it can.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10115 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:28 pm to
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It's year 5 of Gentry. That's why fans are so pissed, the possibility that he could manage to survive yet again.



I’m fine with him finishing out the year. Mid-season firings don’t do anything. I just don’t want to see this team doing really well in the 2nd half (like lots of young teams do when they try and others are tanking) be used as justification for giving him another year.

If they move him to the FO this summer, that’s fine.
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:29 pm to
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I made an offseason thread asking why so many people just assumed Melli was going to be Mirotic, and that we shouldn't be expecting quality play from him, and look where we are with him, getting DNP's and single digit minute outings while shooting 32% from 3. We knew we wanted to develop Jaxson in the G-League, but we still went into the season with Zion/Favors/Okafor as our only bigs.


I'll go on the record and admit that I didn't think we were this vulnerable in the frontcourt when the season started.

We knew about Zion's injury, and the rawness of Jaxson, but the unavailability of Favors and the unplayability of Melli blindsided most of us.

All in all I don't disagree with anything you said.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32005 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:16 pm to
I'm sick of the injury bull shite. It's fricking lame. We are a badly injured team every mother fricking year. Are we just never gonna fire Gentry and keep him forever if we're never healthy? It's not just the injuries we're just not good, and Gentry has had PLENTY of time to show us what he's got and he has given us nothing. We need to quit delaying the inevitable and just fire him right this second. Do what's right.
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