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re: the 2020 fake trade thread

Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Baron
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:29 am to
“Tillman won’t pay the tax? That’s surprising” - Said no one ever
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130170 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:31 am to
Fertitta ownership has definitely been...interesting.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 12:11 pm to
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15. New Orleans Pelicans (Previously 14th), 20-30 (-2.3 net rating)
Buy or sell? Leave it alone.
Now that we have a glimpse of what the Pelicans look like with Zion Williamson, there is absolutely no reason to move anybody involved on the roster. I’m not sure how much of an incentive there was before, but the conversation of possibly moving Jrue Holiday or a good veteran before the deadline was certainly there. Instead, the Pelicans know they have something special in Zion that is galvanizing the state of the team. They have an All-Star in Brandon Ingram, who is steadying a lot of the attack with Holiday. Derrick Favors and JJ Redick can help provide balance to the youth of the team. And we’re getting a lot of great play on both ends of the floor from guys like Lonzo Ball.

The Pelicans should let this team breathe the rest of the season. Unless someone blows you away with a Godfather offer for Holiday, David Griffin should be content with keeping everybody the rest of the season and seeing where they can go. Can this team beat out Memphis and Portland for the No. 8 seed? It doesn’t seem far-fetched, even after digging such a big hole to climb out of earlier this season. Zion makes the presumed direction of the preseason look all the more real. They just need to gel on the court.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17651 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Trade talks between the Warriors and Timberwolves have reached an impasse, per @Con_Chron

Minnesota has been unwilling to include its 2020 1st-round pick in a deal for D’Angelo Russell.


Welp, Minnesota wants to lose Towns I guess
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:04 pm to
That has to be posturing. I've got to believe they would include their first in what is a super weak draft class if it means getting Russell.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
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quote:
15. New Orleans Pelicans (Previously 14th), 20-30 (-2.3 net rating)
Buy or sell? Leave it alone.
Now that we have a glimpse of what the Pelicans look like with Zion Williamson, there is absolutely no reason to move anybody involved on the roster. I’m not sure how much of an incentive there was before, but the conversation of possibly moving Jrue Holiday or a good veteran before the deadline was certainly there. Instead, the Pelicans know they have something special in Zion that is galvanizing the state of the team. They have an All-Star in Brandon Ingram, who is steadying a lot of the attack with Holiday. Derrick Favors and JJ Redick can help provide balance to the youth of the team. And we’re getting a lot of great play on both ends of the floor from guys like Lonzo Ball.

The Pelicans should let this team breathe the rest of the season. Unless someone blows you away with a Godfather offer for Holiday, David Griffin should be content with keeping everybody the rest of the season and seeing where they can go. Can this team beat out Memphis and Portland for the No. 8 seed? It doesn’t seem far-fetched, even after digging such a big hole to climb out of earlier this season. Zion makes the presumed direction of the preseason look all the more real. They just need to gel on the court.

Who is that from? I would not expect any big deals, but really would like to use that Miller contract we overpaid for either now or in the offseason. I would think now has some value due to some teams trying to get under the tax.
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:17 pm to
would really like to see us put something together to get a decent back up big or pg
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Minnesota has been unwilling to include its 2020 1st-round pick in a deal for D’Angelo Russell.

thats gonna be high lottery, possibly top 3.
no fricking way you trade that for russell
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:21 pm to
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thats gonna be high lottery, possibly top 3.
no fricking way you trade that for russell
If I were them, I would protect it top 4. It is a weak draft and they really want Russell.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:22 pm to
i guess so

here's the other side
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The Warriors gave up two first-rounders and Andre Iguodala to get D'Angelo Russell. They're not trading him for Andrew Wiggins and a single first-rounder. Minnesota's gonna have to come with RoCo and a first to get them interested, I'd think.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:22 pm to
I wonder what it would take to get Winslow from Miami in a non-Jrue deal. He has not played much at all this season, but still has promise.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20963 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:36 pm to
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The Warriors gave up two first-rounders a


But at the time of the trade, those looked like the last picks in the first round.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:43 pm to
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But at the time of the trade, those looked like the last picks in the first round.
Those two picks are not very valuable. The 2020 pick to the Nets is protected 1-20 and since it will not be conveyed, it turns into a 2025 2nd rounder. The 1st to Memphis is in 2024 at best. So, they really not claim that they gave up much.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:57 pm to
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The 1st to Memphis is in 2024 at best.

that could be (and probably will be) a valuable pick. for the 2024 season they'll have curry on a new mega deal (50MM?), klay making 43MM, draymond undoubtedly picking up his 27MM option.

if for whatever reason they dont rebound next year (or the next), they'll have to trade klay & draymond and start over. also the CBA expires in 2024...
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Fertitta ownership has definitely been...interesting.

remember...they HAVE to trade nene hilario, its not optional. if he's on the team past the deadline, they'll almost certainly be in the tax. moving him will cost an asset, but will wipe 2.5MM off the payroll assuming they dont take anything back

so it could be as simple as that. the question is, how do they improve the team under those circumstances?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:24 pm to
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ESPN Sources: Another team engaged with the Houston Rockets in trade talks for center Clint Capela: The Boston Celtics.

woj
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:38 pm to
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Sources: The Atlanta Hawks remain a possible landing spot for Capela too. Rockets are pursuing first-round picks to flip into a deal for a wing player and another center. Robert Covington and Andre Iguodala are among several Houston targets.
Posted by LSU4ever2002
Member since Sep 2009
722 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:39 pm to
The Celtics with Capela would make a serious run, if they only lose picks and filler salaries.

Kanter/Theiss/Porier + Picks
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19525 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:40 pm to
So the Rockets are going to head into the playoffs playing PJ Tucker as their center?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48820 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Boston has 3 1's (projected 17,26 and 30) in June. Would need to send out $10M of salary in a Clint Capela deal.
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