re: the 2020 fake trade thread

Haha, sorry, I’m using the most extreme example with the NBAPA to make my point, but probably not the best idea. What I am saying is that there are other considerations beyond what is best for a single team. I’m trying to point out the absurdity that comes with a single team offering a player like Bogdan a contract that Soggy is suggesting in order to defer space and maximize their cap in a couple of years.

Let’s look at it from a sheer numbers standpoint. A max contract for a player with 0-6 years in the league, like Bogdan, is 25% of the salary cap. The new cap is projected to be 116m. That means the most anyone can pay him is 29m. I do not believe there is anyway that that Bogdan Bogdonavic, a 27 year old that is shooting 42%, has a 104 ORtg, 112 DRtg, 13.8 career PER, a career negative DBPM, a .2 VORP so far this year, a career .063 WS/48, a worse RPM than E’Twaun Moore and Josh Hart, and does not even start for his team is going to get a max or near max contract just because a team thinks it can kick the cap can down the road. There are so many roadblocks and issues, beyond a basic numbers sense, that it is not realistic to suggest.

Once again, you're looking at the player and only the player rather than looking at the market.

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Once again, you're looking at the player and only the player rather than looking at the market.

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What you are suggesting: that a team burn up 23-25% of their cap space by overpaying a single player in order to keep their cap flexibility for the long term, is extremely rare occurrence. Looking back at the last 5 off-seasons, you can count on one hand how many times a player has signed for at least 23% of the cap space for 1-2 years, and every one was a much better player than Bogdan, who does not even start for his own team. Those players include Dirk and Wade (during the cap explosion year of 2016), KD (x2), and Lebron. Deandre Jordan to DAL in 2018 got close, but he only signed 1/22.89 which was only 22% of the cap. In fact, the only non-all star that I could find that did what you are suggesting was Redick in 2017 whenever he signed a 1/23m deal to go from the clippers to PHI (almost exactly 23% of the 2017-18 cap). I dont think that it’s too outlandish to say that 2017 JJ was a better player than Bogdan is now.

This is why what you are suggesting is not going to happen. Sorry to everyone else for derailing the conversation. I’m not going to respond anymore on this Bogdan topic

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And as I've stated time and time again. Teams HAVE to spend the cap space. The market is bare as frick. Just looking through the teams, Atlanta could sign Drummond to a 4/120, then Bogdan to a 2/50 and STILL have 22 million to throw at someone else.

So they could land 2 of the top 5 available players and STILL have cap space. That's not taking into account all the other teams with 30-60 million to spend.

Teams will overpay on short deals when they have the money and the market is bare, it's something that's been proven time and time again, I don't know what you cant understand about that, but like you I'm done trying to explain it.

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Actually, they only have to spend to the floor (90% of cap I think). They could also eat up some of their space on their own FAs (i.e. Teague or Len). Bembry and Jones may be restricted FAs as well that they could re-sign. I would not be surprised to see them throw a max or near max at Drummond.

re: covington

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According to Zach Harper of The Athletic, also citing league sources, “young assets and picks (first-round and second-rounders) are the starting point to get in on a Covington conversation.”

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Delusional.

Pistons are seeking a 1st round pick in any deal for Rose

Pretty much takes the Lakers off the table

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Pistons are seeking a 1st round pick in any deal for Rose

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that would be a massive mistake for any team.
rose is a nice bench scorer, in small doses

Jah singlehandedly killed Drummonds trade value