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Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:09 pm to NOSHAU
Bojan got 4/73 in a talent rich FA class where he was MAYBE top 20 talent
You can't look at what other players got, you have to look at money available and the talent available..
Now, Boban wont get the 4 years Bojan got, but he will get paid high for 1-2 years just so teams have that cap space spent
You can't look at what other players got, you have to look at money available and the talent available..
Now, Boban wont get the 4 years Bojan got, but he will get paid high for 1-2 years just so teams have that cap space spent
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:13 pm to NOSHAU
Agreed. Was thinking more in the “solid starter” range which is 15/yr and up. So more of a 4/65 kind of deal, but I’ve been wrong before. We’ll just have to bookmark this and revisit it in the offseason
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:16 pm to Soggymoss
shamit
adds wing depth, kicks the miller salary can down the road
quote:
After watching Portland make a cost saving trade, I wonder if they would be open to some construction of Darius Miller for Trevor Ariza. This would bring them another $5m closer to ducking the tax.
quote:
Portland wouldn't even have Ariza's $1.8M obligation next year. The Pels pick themselves up vet depth and a larger potential salary slot they can use next year for more trades. Seems about as win win as you can get.
adds wing depth, kicks the miller salary can down the road
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:23 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Which is why a lot of teams will not sign long term deals and look forward to the 2021 free agency which is supposed to be much better.
There's alot of money available (something like 12-13 teams with over 30 million in cap space) in a VERY weak FA market..
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:24 pm to cgrand
quote:Would be a solid addition. I mentioned him as a possibility in a trade with Kings, but forgot about it once he got traded. However, he can still be traded one for one (just not aggregated). He fits what we could use on the bench.
adds wing depth, kicks the miller salary can down the road
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:26 pm to NOSHAU
Which is why I've saying the ENTIRE time that he will get 25+, but it will be on a 1-2 year deal
Jesus christ, pay fricking attention guys
Jesus christ, pay fricking attention guys
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:34 pm to Soggymoss
quote:He won't get $50 million over 2 years. That is a massive overpay. I cannot imagine teams are lining up to blow $25 million a year on him. I believe he will be restricted, so it would take an overpay, but that seems like an extreme overpay.
Which is why I've saying the ENTIRE time that he will get 25+, but it will be on a 1-2 year deal
Jesus christ, pay fricking attention guys
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:50 pm to NOSHAU
With so much money available 2 years 50-60 million with the 2nd year being a team option is not insane..
It does 2 things for a team
1)They use their cap space on what could be an asset they can flip at the trade deadline for draft pick(s) and take back a bad contract from a contender, or if they are buying they can flip him with draft picks and take back a max guy.
2) It essentially gives them a tryout to see if the guy fits with their team (a great idea for someone like Atlanta), and if he fits great they have him signed for another year, and it gives them his early bird rights
It's essentially what we did with Miller this season
It does 2 things for a team
1)They use their cap space on what could be an asset they can flip at the trade deadline for draft pick(s) and take back a bad contract from a contender, or if they are buying they can flip him with draft picks and take back a max guy.
2) It essentially gives them a tryout to see if the guy fits with their team (a great idea for someone like Atlanta), and if he fits great they have him signed for another year, and it gives them his early bird rights
It's essentially what we did with Miller this season
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:59 pm to Soggymoss
Still need a tweener big
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:02 pm to Soggymoss
What does that mean, “pulled back”?
So we aren’t looking to add anyone?
So we aren’t looking to add anyone?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:06 pm to TeddyPadillac
Just watched the clip, it sounds like they are not looking to move anyone according to Woj.
It sounds like teams have been calling about Jrue and JJ, but we are not listening to anything involving them until 6-7 games to see how everyone plays with Zion
Heres the clip LINK
It sounds like teams have been calling about Jrue and JJ, but we are not listening to anything involving them until 6-7 games to see how everyone plays with Zion
Heres the clip LINK
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
sounds like it’s “pulled back” from trading jrue or redick
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:08 pm to TeddyPadillac
Probably means they like the roster as is and they aren’t looking to trade anyone in the rotation right now. Griffin’s been pretty consistent with that.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:10 pm to Soggymoss
This argument is might be practical in theory but is unrealistic in practice. No team is going to overpay one player by that much just to fill out the cap and defer their space to a better FA year. The Knicks did the closest thing that you are talking about and still only gave Randle 3/63. NBAPA, as just one example, is not going to allow a team to pay a player like Bogdon 28m, rather than spread it around on a few players.
I understand what you’re saying and your reasoning, it makes perfect sense, but it’s not going to happen.
I understand what you’re saying and your reasoning, it makes perfect sense, but it’s not going to happen.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:14 pm to Baron
The players association can't tell a team how to spend their money..
With Trae getting upset in Atlanta, they will overpay Drummond and someone like Bogdan to try to appease him
And the Randle deal happened in an offseason with a great fa class and it happened after pretty much all the money dried up
Put Randle in this offseason where he is probably the best available guy that a team could bring in, and he would likely get a full max or close to it
With Trae getting upset in Atlanta, they will overpay Drummond and someone like Bogdan to try to appease him
And the Randle deal happened in an offseason with a great fa class and it happened after pretty much all the money dried up
Put Randle in this offseason where he is probably the best available guy that a team could bring in, and he would likely get a full max or close to it
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:20 pm to Baron
quote:
NBAPA, as just one example, is not going to allow a team to pay a player like Bogdon 28m, rather than spread it around on a few players
do what?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:22 pm to cgrand
I had to chuckle a little at that one
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:41 pm to Soggymoss
quote:That's a pretty big difference. He may not take a 2nd year team option in that scenario. That puts all the risk on him and pushes the decision into a free agency period that should be loaded. He would want control, not the team (or at least a partial guarantee). That is effectively a 1 year/$25 deal.
With so much money available 2 years 50-60 million with the 2nd year being a team option is not insane..
It does 2 things for a team
1)They use their cap space on what could be an asset they can flip at the trade deadline for draft pick(s) and take back a bad contract from a contender, or if they are buying they can flip him with draft picks and take back a max guy.
2) It essentially gives them a tryout to see if the guy fits with their team (a great idea for someone like Atlanta), and if he fits great they have him signed for another year, and it gives them his early bird rights
It's essentially what we did with Miller this season
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