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re: SVG Fired per Woj & Andrew Lopez. UPDATED With initial known candidates

Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:44 pm to
Guys like Lee and Ham and Cassell and Vanterpool, and yes, Becky Hammon, have paid their dues. They have worked as assistants a long time and are FAR more qualified than TSpoon.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1668 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:44 pm to
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What does anyone really know about theses coaches? (Hint: nothing)


Exactly. I know the players and most importantly Zion have a good relationship with Weatherspoon and seeing as keeping your stars happy is probably the most important thing in the NBA that’s a good enough reason for me to be fine with the hire. That plus all the good PR this organization will get. We don’t want to admit it but getting labeled a dysfunctional laughing stock by the sports media is a big reason our stars always leave and no one will sign here. This will help with that
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41099 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:45 pm to
I love how on one page y’all say there’s reasons for these name links (agents, team, etc) then y’all spend 20 pages arguing about one of the names linked clearly for those reasons. She’s not a legit possibility.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
19973 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:45 pm to
It is.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123902 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:46 pm to
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She’s not a legit possibility.


Multiple different media types from completely different media sources are all saying she is.

She may not be.

This is not a female coach thing. I would be fine with Hammon if she is the call.

Weatherspoon is just not qualified for this job which needs to be a homerun hire.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12032 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:47 pm to
Williams wasn't fired for his performance though. His squad got to the playoffs twice in 5 years. He got fired in a power struggle with Demps.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54173 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:48 pm to
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I think that’s what he is pointing out. There are plenty of male coaches in the NBA with similar or better resumes but they won’t even get an interview. Why is tha
well I think part of it is also they know the kind of coach she is and have heard nothing but good things inside the facility about her and have seen it first hand. I don’t think her being a woman or black has much to do with it tbh. shite even Jaylen Brown absolutely gushes over her and talks about her being the reason he’s improved on defense and as a player. As for Becky I think her working under Pop has been the reason for her interviews and name being dropped with every coaching search. Just like every other coach that’s under the Pop coaching tree.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43298 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:50 pm to
Kuschner nails it

LINK

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No matter the money required (it’s a lot), or the egg taken to the face (they're about to hire a third coach in three years), the Pelicans had no choice but to fix this quickly.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13080 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:51 pm to
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If we are counting coaching experience (even just her one year in the NBA), she already has a longer resume than the following head coaches when they were hired (all of whom had never been a coach at all before):

2020 BRK Steve Nash
2014 NYK Derek Fisher
2014 GSW Steve Kerr
2013 BRK Jason Kidd
2011 GSW Mark Jackson
2008 CHI Vinny Del Negro
2005 MIN Kevin McHale
2000 IND Isiah Thomas
1999 ORL Doc Rivers
1997 IND Larry Bird
1995 BOS M.L. Carr
1994 LAL Magic Johnson
1993 DAL Quinn Buckner
1992 DEN Dan Issel
1987 PHO Dick Van Arsdale
1980 SDC Paul Silas
What do they all have in common at least that she does not have (related to the NBA and players she would be coaching)?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38370 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:53 pm to
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I would have questioned it for sure but liked it more than Weatherspoon


If you would have questioned it, then fair enough. I would have loved it.

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Last time I checked, she wasn’t a multi-time MVP in the nba. And yeah, that matters to me.


If a requirement is for them to have played in the NBA, you have an issue with it being a woman right? Not just her. She's not an NBA MVP but she is a hall of famer, that's not too bad on a resume.

Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
4500 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:54 pm to
Which is why I am fine with her staying on staff as a lead assistant! Zion can still be happy because she is around in a more prominent role but we have someone who’s either had experience running things or has learned in that #2 role. Get some valuable experience being the #2 on NBA Staff, then I would consider her a good candidate. Until then, it’s just a media cry because of her being a black female.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73351 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:58 pm to
3 year stretch of averaging 27 wins then swept by GS in his prove it year. There’s really only one way a HC Is judged and the GM is never going to fire themself.

Of course the underlying issue was the roster constructed by demps. Which furthers the point that every anyone’s resume needs to be examined thoroughly and we need to ask why they failed previously
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25878 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:58 pm to
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What do they all have in common at least that she does not have (related to the NBA and players she would be coaching)?



You tell me and tell me why it matters.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13080 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:00 pm to
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If a requirement is for them to have played in the NBA, you have an issue with it being a woman right? Not just her. She's not an NBA MVP but she is a hall of famer, that's not too bad on a resume.
You clearly are trying your best to make it a female thing. There are others who have not played in the NBA who have become good coaches. However, they build their resumes in other ways, such as assistants or front office, etc. Having only been an asst for 1 season, her resume is a bit thin at this point to be considered a lock as a head coaching candidate.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160444 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Fletcher Mackel
@FletcherWDSU
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11m
1. As someone who lobbied for Becky Hammon to get Pelicans job last year I hope Weatherspoon’s candidacy isn’t just a smokescreen from Pels front office.

2. ‘Spoon’ as head coach with someone like Jacques Vaughn or Charles Lee as her associate head coach would be good for NOLA.


Fletch is so woke, has to make sure you know he lobbied for a woman last year too in case you forgot to count those woke points.

He's such an empty headed, dipshit.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13080 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:01 pm to
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You tell me and tell me why it matters.
So experience playing at a very high level the game they are being asked to coach does not matter?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13080 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Tom Crewz reckons TSpoon or Lee
And he is very confident it will be one of those two.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12032 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:04 pm to
You conveniently left out the transition years after Paul was traded and that plays a big role in his overall record here. The guy had 2 season where he won less than 30 games and they were transition years. He literally improved their record year after year up until he got fired. The young team was on the rise. Gentry conveniently gets hired and sets the franchise back. Now tell me how Weatherspoon compares?
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54173 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:04 pm to
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And he is very confident it will be one of those two.

so it’s probably neither
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25878 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:04 pm to
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So experience playing at a very high level the game they are being asked to coach does not matter?



It definitely matters, especially in lieu of coaching experience.

Are you suggesting Weatherspoon didn't play basketball at a very high level?
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