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re: Stein: Pels want Markkanen with TPE, Bulls want 1st round pick.

Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

A S&T has to be 3 years, how many of the years are team options will be a big deal.



I know it’s semantics, but it’s 3 years with no options. You can have non-guaranteed years on it though.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10478 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:35 pm to
That makes it even worse.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30139 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:36 pm to
If we give up ball and a 1st to get markkanen when we could have reportedly gotten him for just ball at the deadline

I swear I'm gonna lose it.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27883 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:39 pm to
Why? Things change quickly in free agency. Maybe the Pels wanted to pursue a couple different things that didn’t work out so they’re seeing if they can work out a deal for Lauri.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:41 pm to
Things change quickly for teams that don't have a well thought out plan going into free agency. If your scenario is true, it would make the front office look like world class clowns.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

If Griff gives up a 1st for a player that literally nobody else on the market is willing to sign to the deal Griff is going to give him, he needs to be fired immediately. But I don't think he'll give in on this.



I agree. Be dumb to do so. Bulls matching and paying a guy who doesn’t want to be there either is a terrible choice. We been there and done that with Gordon.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:43 pm to
Why?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:47 pm to
he’s objectively not worth 17MM for 3 years. Not even 2+ a non gtd year.
and certainly not worth another pick. I would rather save the TPE for the deadline

remember if hart plays on the QO here he has a no trade clause.

give that money to hart 3/30 and let’s roll with what we got. See if there’s a decent frontcourt pickup available after roster cut downs
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10478 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:47 pm to
Because you're circling back to a guy you initially didn't want and now you want him when you lost any and every leverage that you had to land him and gave it all to Chicago who is now demanding a 1st.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

The Bulls have decided they would greatly enjoy a further raping of Griffin
Didn't you and I go back and forth for a full day about how we didn't have the leverage to get more out of the Zo deal?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27883 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:49 pm to
You’re assuming so much that I don’t even feel like taking the time to point it all out.
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
3625 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:50 pm to
Just add Markkanen to the Lonzo S&T. Send them 2 2nds and then they immediately are taken by the league. Boom both teams are punished/ get what they want.
Posted by aswemajor
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1703 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:51 pm to
Who do y’all think is leaking this? Lauri’s agent trying to drive up his value?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10478 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:51 pm to
Of course because you have nothing. You want to defend this BS. Which is fine. There were plenty of guys in free agency that could have been plan b,c,d..etc for your back up stretch 4. But here we are, with Chicago's nuts up our arse.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
3625 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:55 pm to
Name one of those backup PF's that are better than Markkanen. Our priorities probably weren't a backup PF first. Now that we struck out on extra shooting we have a chance to add extra shooting and a backup PF, killing 2 birds with one stone. And you'd rather be a bitchy pessimist.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27883 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:57 pm to
lol I’m not defending anything. I’m saying that you don’t have enough information to know half of what you claim to know. You’re assuming so much.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Name one of those backup PF's that are better than Markkanen
Better or a better value?

Because $17 mil and a 1st for Lauri is absurd.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27883 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Who do y’all think is leaking this? Lauri’s agent trying to drive up his value?

By having the collective basketball world agree that the asking price is too expensive to offer him a contract he doesn’t deserve?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10478 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:59 pm to
don't forget the 1st round pick Chicago is demanding. You can't defend this shite anymore and I've done it to an extent for a week prior to today.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6344 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:59 pm to
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supe12sta12z


Bro, chill.

I melted a good bit the first few days of FA, but I think the FO had a plan, and for the most part executed it, but underestimated the difficulty in getting UFA to sign here.

I think Mark has been a target of theirs from the start, and I think he could fit well in our Offense, which was in dire need of 3 pt shooters.

I can see them doing 2 Second Rounders for him
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