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re: Spinoff: So who would you want If we land a top 3 pick?

Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:58 pm to
Is embiid even bigger than AD? I say parker or wiggins and if we get the third and they aren't there,trade it for a legit all-star,like Love.
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 8:59 pm to
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You always take that over a good wing player, imo (unless it's like Lebron or something)


Like Oden over Durant, right.

Or Milicic...
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:07 am to
Embiid
Posted by drake20
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:09 am to
it would be pretty ridiculous if we got a pick...would be magical...playoffs or bust next season
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:11 am to
I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 2:22 am to
I'd flip the pick to Detroit for Drummond and their pick
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:44 am to
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Embiid


Why is everyone so in love with Embiid?

A high ceiling center with a potentially catastrophic injury who needs plenty of time to work on his body and develop his game? Sounds similar to Nerlens Noel.

DX Video- Embiid v NBA Prospect C
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:45 am to
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there arent going to be players like Wiggins and Parker for a good while


This type of stuff is said and proven wrong every year.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:49 am to
1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Parker
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61612 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:22 am to
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who needs plenty of time to work on his body and develop his game


This and the fit of the others is why I think it'd be Wiggins or trade. A top 3 pick should be enough to both unload Gordon and get something usable in return.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27438 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:02 am to
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I'd flip the pick to Detroit for Drummond and their pick


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Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:05 am to
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A high ceiling center with a potentially catastrophic injury who needs plenty of time to work on his body and develop his game? Sounds similar to Nerlens Noel.


For a player as raw as Embiid -- still learning the nuances of basketball after growing up playing volleyball -- he's still pretty damn good and has a STRONG low post game right now to go along with a decent shooting touch.

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Why is everyone so in love with Embiid?


Because he's really fricking good and would be a solid favorite for the top pick if not for the back injury.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:32 am to
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quote:

I'd want Wiggins or Embiid
I just have eery feeling this is like a Durant vs. Oden match off.


This This This

I think the Wiggins hype is a little overblown. But taking a big man with back or knee issues almost never works out. I actually believe Noel will have a healthier career than Embiid.

I'd have to go Wiggins to pair with AD and Jrue.


quote:

They have a bunch of trade ideas and my favorite (which I don't think Orlando would agree to unless Wiggins is there) is the pick and Gordon for Vucevic and Dipo.


I could live with that. It's hard to pass up on Wiggins though.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:46 am to
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has a STRONG low post game right now


I assume you didn't watch the DX video I linked. He's got great tools, but he will need time to bulk up and adjust to playing guys that aren't 6'8" on a nightly basis, like almost all young bigs.

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he's really fricking good


That's never been in dispute.

The point is that this board has largely been bashing Noel for the past year for flaws that Embiid has too. Why the disconnect? Simply just defensiveness because they shipped him out for Holiday? Because he's a better scorer than Noel (but a worse rebounder and shot blocker)?
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:52 am to
I'm leaning more to the comparison of Hasheem Thabeet for Embiid. I just don't see him excelling at the next level.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27438 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:12 am to
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I assume you didn't watch the DX video I linked. He's got great tools, but he will need time to bulk up and adjust to playing guys that aren't 6'8" on a nightly basis, like almost all young bigs.


Yeh, I watched it.

They showed him playing vs Baylor -- a team that plays 100% zone -- and Florida.

With Florida they show two plays of Embiid posting up Young and not getting pushed off the block, then making low post moves and finishing at the basket. Then they showed two plays where they believe he got pushed off the block -- which wasn't true, so I turned it off.

quote:

The point is that this board has largely been bashing Noel for the past year for flaws that Embiid has too. Why the disconnect? Simply just defensiveness because they shipped him out for Holiday? Because he's a better scorer than Noel (but a worse rebounder and shot blocker)?


Per 40 minutes, Embiid is a better rebounder.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 10:15 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:48 am to
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Per 40 minutes, Embiid is a better rebounder.


You're right. Looked at the numbers too quickly.

Regardless, I'm still a bit puzzled at the difference. For me, if a miracle happens I go with Wiggins every time. I'd be happy to "settle" for Embiid at 2 or 3, just like I was happy to "settle" for Noel at 6 before the trade
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
33012 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:28 am to
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I'm leaning more to the comparison of Hasheem Thabeet for Embiid.


Wow. Do you think he will be a bust because of injury or do you just think he will not be that good?
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:39 am to
I think he's too raw to be trying to develop in the NBA. He def needed another year at Kansas.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27438 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:40 am to
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Wow. Do you think he will be a bust because of injury or do you just think he will not be that good?


Both are tall, black and come from Africa. You don't see the comparison? Sheesh!

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