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Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:36 pm to supe12sta12z
Hes in his head man. He usually is so smooth. Im hoping he can iron out his shooting before the regular season begins. I think he hopefully gets back to his old self though. Usually high volume players like him do.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:47 pm to Fun Bunch
They will be a barely over .500 team if healthy. Aside from a couple of players, they don't care about defense at all. They also can't shoot 3's.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:23 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Its not historically if you go winless. You can say its idiotic but doesn’t make your point more true. Before you just pull something out of your arse and say it’s idiotic actually look shite up.
Wins and losses win you play more than half the game with guys who won’t even be in the rotation is absolutely useless. It tells you NOTHING. Playing like crap and without much effort is cause for some concern (not this ridiculous the season is over crap some of you are posting), but the fact we’re not winning meaningless games is irrelevant.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:11 pm to Fun Bunch
I was actually encouraged in the 3rd., players are finding where their shots come from in the offense ... they just can't shoot and finish well yet.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:13 pm to LSUgrad88
“Wins and losses win you play more than half the game with guys who won’t even be in the rotation is absolutely useless. It tells you NOTHING. Playing like crap and without much effort is cause for some concern (not this ridiculous the season is over crap some of you are posting), but the fact we’re not winning meaningless games is irrelevant.”
- this is nothing but conjecture and made up opinion of what you think. Historical data of a winless preseason shows your incorrect. But for some reason you think your opinion matters more. Its not irrelevant if data shows there is a trend to a winless preseason. Could mean absolutely nothing? Sure. But data is showing that being winless in your preseason majority of the time leads to a shitty regular season regardless of your made up opinion with no stats or data backing it up.
- In addition majority of these games we have played with guys in our rotation. The minutes may be skewed but its not like our starters werent playing.
- this is nothing but conjecture and made up opinion of what you think. Historical data of a winless preseason shows your incorrect. But for some reason you think your opinion matters more. Its not irrelevant if data shows there is a trend to a winless preseason. Could mean absolutely nothing? Sure. But data is showing that being winless in your preseason majority of the time leads to a shitty regular season regardless of your made up opinion with no stats or data backing it up.
- In addition majority of these games we have played with guys in our rotation. The minutes may be skewed but its not like our starters werent playing.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:13 am to Fun Bunch
Last few seasons, we looked good in preseason while the teams that were actually good didn’t look so hot.
It’s the preseason. If we look like this after Christmas, save me a spot on your crusade. Until then, keep me posted
It’s the preseason. If we look like this after Christmas, save me a spot on your crusade. Until then, keep me posted
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:12 am to Pels_Yaz
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would argue Steph is a point guard who is the best shooter in the world. His handles and passing is pretty damn good.
Within that offense (prior to cp3 arrival), Draymond is more of the point while Steph is performing most actions off-ball. Stephen has incredible handles and is a very good passer, but that alone doesn't mean he is a point guard in their offense.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:30 am to 504Voodoo
Are you saying draymond is a more of a point guard than Steph is in the warriors offense? I’ll agree Draymond is somewhat involved in a hybrid point role at times but personally that whole offense revolves around Steph and his ability to shoot, dribble and pass. In my opinion he is the point guard of that offense and draymond handles when they try to play Steph off ball.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:55 am to Pels_Yaz
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Its not irrelevant if data shows there is a trend to a winless preseason.
Just tell me how winning a game matters to how we will do in the regular season when the guys the Pels are playing in the entire fourth quarter are Seaborn, Gates, Hawkins, Liddell and Jemison. Do you expect those guys to be playing significant minutes, let alone important minutes in the regular season? If so, then winning these games would be relevant. If not, then they aren’t.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:09 am to LSUgrad88
Are you a pels fan? Do you not know our history of injuries? Hawkins will get minutes. Liddell might too. And again other teams are playing their subs too in games and not getting blown out and getting wins. The depth of a team and its talent is very important in a 82 game season in the NBA. You’re acting like this team stays healthy in the regular season and will never use those players. Winning even one game in the preseason with our team even our subs shows we have enough talent to compete with other teams in the regular season who are also employing the same strategy. I feel depth and talent of our team is even more important to us due to amount of our injuries we get every year.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:22 am to Pels_Yaz
You have to use a little common sense. You will NEVER have a regular season game where no starter sees the court in the Fourth Quarter of a game (unless it’s an absolute rout). That is what happens in preseason games. That is why winning and losing does not matter. The fact that our starters haven’t played terribly well is cause for some concern (how much is debatable). But whether we win or lose a game that DOES NOT COUNT when we are playing guys who will not play key minutes is irrelevant. The guys I named above played the entire 4th quarter against the Hawks. Now, even if one of Seaborn, Liddell, Gates, Jemison and Hawkins (which hopefully will be Hawkins) is a rotation player, they won’t be playing 4th quarter minutes without playing alongside some combination of Zion, BI, CJ, Trey, Herb, Jose, JV, Larry, Zeller. So how can it matter if we win or lose a game where we are playing an entire 4th quarter with guys of which most will not even make the final roster?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:37 am to LSUgrad88
Because its not like the opposition is playing their starters regular minutes as well. I get your argument that its a completely different game in the regular season. But in the preseason we are doing the same thing other teams are doing and not winning. So yes I think wins in preseason matter to a degree. I think if you ask any team they would prefer to win at least one game. Does not winning a single game affect how you do in the regular season? Maybe not. All Im saying is data historically says if you go winless you will have a bad regular season. The caveat being the preseason was shortened recently too. With all that being said- I would prefer the pelicans show out well and find a way to win on Tuesday.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:51 am to Pels_Yaz
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With all that being said- I would prefer the pelicans show out well and find a way to win on Tuesday.
Well we can agree we would like to see the guys that matter put out effort and show some kind of cohesion together. And if some of those guys are playing at the end of the game I hope we win. Otherwise, I’m just hoping we look like a team out there. The games that matter start soon.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:01 pm to Fun Bunch
Here come the excuses, right on time.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:36 pm to Fun Bunch
Doing a little digging...
There are 7 undefeated teams this preseason, and there are 6 winless teams this preseason as of right now.
The average Vegas O/U for the 7 undefeated teams is 38 wins...ATL/TOR/ORL/WASH/MIN/GS/HOU
The average Vegas O/U for the 6 winless teams is 45 wins...CLE/PHI/IND/DAL/SAC/NO
4 of the 7 undefeated teams have an O/U of 36.5 or lower.
5 of the 6 winless teams have an O/U of 44.5 or higher.
There are 7 undefeated teams this preseason, and there are 6 winless teams this preseason as of right now.
The average Vegas O/U for the 7 undefeated teams is 38 wins...ATL/TOR/ORL/WASH/MIN/GS/HOU
The average Vegas O/U for the 6 winless teams is 45 wins...CLE/PHI/IND/DAL/SAC/NO
4 of the 7 undefeated teams have an O/U of 36.5 or lower.
5 of the 6 winless teams have an O/U of 44.5 or higher.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:37 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:this place had a 10 hour boner after the 1st preseason game. maybe everyone should stop with all the extremes.
I don’t want to get over dramatic
It fricking preseason NBA basketball. you can draw ZERO conclusions from this
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:25 pm to Fun Bunch
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This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:31 pm to brmark70816
quote:Have you watched the NBA long? Absolutely.
You really think they can just turn it on and off?
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:36 pm to brmark70816
quote:You think ATL/TOR/ORL/WASH/MIN/GS will average more wins than CLE/PHI/IND/DAL/SAC/NO this season?
You really think they can just turn it on and off?
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