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Someone explain why Markkanen isn't a good fit for us?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:18 am
Seems like an offensive talent that has developed his 3 shot nicely. A big that stretches the floor. He can be what Melli was supposed to be but maybe better. Good FT shooting. Compliments differently what Adams and Hayes brings to court.
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:19 am to Chad504boy
Because he would have to come off the bench for us and will get paid this summer.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:19 am to Chad504boy
On paper, he's the perfect piece. Between injuries and his inconsistencies, it's hard to justify the price that he'll command in the offseason. The talent is as good a fit next to Zion as you can get.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:20 am to Chad504boy
His contract, his defense, 
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:22 am to Chad504boy
Zero defense, wants a huge contract, and would be a bench player here
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:22 am to Chad504boy
1) He's a terrible defender.
2) Shamit pointed this article out about "The Myth Of The Stretch 5" which highlights how these "stretch 5s" take a whole lot of open shots because they aren't actually stretching the floor and getting bigs to follow them out of the paint. LINK
3) He's a terrible defender.
2) Shamit pointed this article out about "The Myth Of The Stretch 5" which highlights how these "stretch 5s" take a whole lot of open shots because they aren't actually stretching the floor and getting bigs to follow them out of the paint. LINK
3) He's a terrible defender.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:25 am to TigerinATL
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2) Shamit pointed this article out about "The Myth Of The Stretch 5" which highlights how these "stretch 5s" take a whole lot of open shots because they aren't actually stretching the floor and getting bigs to follow them out of the paint.
having any positional guy that shoots 40% clip from 3 with zion having the defenders crash on him sounds decent enough to me.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:30 am to TigerinATL
I don't agree with the theory on the stretch big. The difference between 4 guys spacing the floor while preventing defenses from sagging off too much to collapse the paint will be huge for a guy like Zion. There's enough games we've seen this season where Zion lose some effectiveness in the 2nd half because we can't space the floor enough to allow him to dominate. We've seen enough games where he scores 20 in the first half and finishes the game with 28. The team needs to find a spacing big when the opportunity is there to land one.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:31 am to Chad504boy
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Lauri (first 4 seasons):
19.5/8.9/1.6/1.2stk per75
+0 rTS%
22.7 USG%
0.9 AST/TO
36% from 3 on 7.5 3PA/75
moved to C midway thru 4th season
Bargnani (first 4 seasons):
18.5/6.4/1.5/1.9stk per75
+0 rTS%
22.5 USG%
0.7 AST/TO
38% from 3 on 5 3PA/75
moved to C at start of 5th season
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:34 am to Chad504boy
He's looking for a pay day just like Lonzo and doesn't defend. Where do you see him on the depth chart? I would see him coming off the bench.
Give me Larry Nance over Markkanen if we're spending assets to get a bench big that can shoot the 3.
Give me Larry Nance over Markkanen if we're spending assets to get a bench big that can shoot the 3.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:01 am to supe12sta12z
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I don't agree with the theory on the stretch big.
Same, it’s stupid.
Having a stretch five is as much about having someone that can hit open shots as it is disrupting defenses by creating space.
The thing with Zion is you want a guy that when he does attack the paint, if he kicks it out there is a high probability the person can hit a shot.
That said, Lauri feels like fools gold, that Bargnani comparison is a good one and sort of distills my issues with him.
I doubt anyone offers him 20 mil, but I still think he’s risking an overpay even at 16 because of his injury history and seeming limited growth potential defensively.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:14 am to Chad504boy
He's one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. We already have enough questions about the defensive abilities of our core pieces, we don't need to add another.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:18 am to TigerinATL
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3) He's a terrible defender.
4) He’s been injury prone
5) He’s been really inconsistent
6) He’s an awful defender
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:28 am to TigerinATL
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Where do you see him on the depth chart? I would see him coming off the bench.
Isn’t a bad thing really. If NAW and Kira make their way into starting lineup then we need bench scoring
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:32 am to Chad504boy
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Isn’t a bad thing really.
You're probably looking at $15-$20 million a year for the role they had hoped Melli would fill.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:34 am to TigerinATL
You don’t want to pay 20 mil for a one dimensional bench scorer. Guys like Lou Williams, Manu Ginobli, and Jamal Crawford never made more than the 10-12 mil a year range. Lauri will want even more than that and will likely play less minutes than those guys, respectively
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:36 am to TigerinATL
Tell me who else is knocking on our door anytime soon
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:37 am to TigerinATL
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You're probably looking at $15-$20 million a year for the role they had hoped Melli would fill.
If he is that bad a defender and injury prone, who is giving him 15-20 a year then? Only a few teams have cap room and I thought they are all gonna be chasing Ball?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:48 am to Townedrunkard
Only one team will be chasing ball, and that’s the team that trades for him. His FA is now. There will be a lot of teams with possible space this off-season, and any team with an actual defensive big would be interested in Lauri. He is exactly the opposite of what we need around an offensive big. Zion needs a long, defensive rim protector and Lauri ain’t it.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:56 pm to Jon1798
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Only one team will be chasing ball, and that’s the team that trades for him. His FA is now. There will be a lot of teams with possible space this off-season, and any team with an actual defensive big would be interested in Lauri. He is exactly the opposite of what we need around an offensive big. Zion needs a long, defensive rim protector and Lauri ain’t it.
So you don’t think if we trade him to the Bulls, the Knicks won’t put in an offer to try and poach him? Or maybe Charlotte to pair with his brother? Just because he’s traded doesn’t mean teams won’t chase him. This take makes no since.
And we drafted in theory, a long defensive rim protector. Markannnen would fit with Adams or Hayes when Zion’s on the bench or would keep the lane clear for Zion to operate.
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