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re: Solmon Hill to Pels 4yr/50 potential 2 mill for good behavior on line
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:19 pm to Crewz
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:19 pm to Crewz
quote:
Let's revisit this on July 15. I will show you 3-5 guys who have at least as much production as Hill (or more) who get less than half. I guarantee it
Can't wait to see how you arbitrarily define "production" to spin this one
How about you reserve judgement until after these guys play a season with their new teams?
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:25 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
Can't wait to see how you arbitrarily define "production" to spin this one
let's just create some ranges of various stats to set it in stone
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Here we go
Would anybody argue that Ian Clark has similar production to Hill? Forget upside, position, etc.
Can we all agree that those two guys have had similar NBA production?
Would anybody argue that Ian Clark has similar production to Hill? Forget upside, position, etc.
Can we all agree that those two guys have had similar NBA production?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:47 pm to Crewz
so wait you want to create ranges of stats/variables for hill and clark now?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:51 pm to Crewz
One other thing I want to know, and please try to answer honestly and as objectively as possible (not trying to win your argument):
If Solomon Hill shoots 6-19 from three in that series instead of 11-19 and literally everything else was the same, what kind of contract do you think he would get?
If Solomon Hill shoots 6-19 from three in that series instead of 11-19 and literally everything else was the same, what kind of contract do you think he would get?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:53 pm to Crewz
Mike, what do you know in terms of the teams thinking with Hill? Hear a lot about him as a small ball 4, does the team plan on using him as that any? I know Dell has liked him for a while, what does he like?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:53 pm to Crewz
quote:Much less. Do you know if there was a lot of competition for him? It just seems that his contract should be closer to what Moore got (maybe $36 million at most over 4 years).
One other thing I want to know, and please try to answer honestly and as objectively as possible (not trying to win your argument): If Solomon Hill shoots 6-19 from three in that series instead of 11-19 and literally everything else was the same, what kind of contract do you think he would get?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:00 pm to CP3forMVP
They see him as a 3 who can play 4. Most of the smart guys who people keep pointing to in order to justify the signing say over and over again that they like the signing if Hill mostly plays 4. He won't. The plan is for him to start at 3. Will likely play 70-90 percent of his minutes there
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:01 pm to NOSHAU
Supposedly there were 2 other teams very interested and willing to go into double figures
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:01 pm to Crewz
quote:
They see him as a 3 who can play 4. Most of the smart guys who people keep pointing to in order to justify the signing say over and over again that they like the signing if Hill mostly plays 4. He won't. The plan is for him to start at 3. Will likely play 70-90 percent of his minutes there
this begs the question. why are you bringing up clark as a comparison?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Did I compare them as players or did I simply ask if we can use that as a bar for production comparison?
Do I need to teach people basketball AND how to read? That's too much for me tbh
Do I need to teach people basketball AND how to read? That's too much for me tbh
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:14 pm to Crewz
quote:
Did I compare them as players or did I simply ask if we can use that as a bar for production comparison?
Do I need to teach people basketball AND how to read? That's too much for me tbh
Well a proper comparison for as to whether Hill lives up to his contract or is an average or above average SF would be to another 3/4. We needed a 3 who can play 4, not a 2 or 2 who can play 3. So you should really pick another comparable player that we could have signed for that same role.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:16 pm to Crewz
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Did I compare them as players or did I simply ask if we can use that as a bar for production comparison?
well it's kind of silly to compare a guy who is 6-3 and more of a 1/2 than a 3/4 (more rare) option
quote:
Do I need to teach people basketball AND how to read?
do i need to teach you valid comparisons AND supply and demand?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
jrue and AD have to stay very healthy if we're going to do anything
That was always the case no matter who the Pels brought in for this season.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:31 pm to Crewz
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other teams very interested and willing to go into double figures
Lakers offered him 4 yrs 50 mil but Gentry promised Hill a starting job.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:31 pm to TGHub
Regarding catch and shoot:
Hill shot 39% this year
Compare this to DC(32.4%) and Gee(26%)
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Add it altogether and Solomon Hill shot 36.5% (96/263) on catch and shoot threes in the last two seasons plus playoffs
Hill shot 39% this year
Compare this to DC(32.4%) and Gee(26%)
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:42 pm to LosLobos111
And those two guys might make 5-6 mil combined this year
If the argument is: Is Hill better than what we had? The answer is maybe, depending on how QPon comes back
But if the question is: Was he the best value you could have gotten for that 12 mil? My educated guess is no
If the argument is: Is Hill better than what we had? The answer is maybe, depending on how QPon comes back
But if the question is: Was he the best value you could have gotten for that 12 mil? My educated guess is no
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:46 pm to Crewz
name names
who are the other players that are gettable that they could have signed for 12MM total?
don't get me wrong I'm as confused by this guy as anyone but I'm interested in hearing your opinion on who the alternatives were
who are the other players that are gettable that they could have signed for 12MM total?
don't get me wrong I'm as confused by this guy as anyone but I'm interested in hearing your opinion on who the alternatives were
Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:56 am to Crewz
quote:
Do I need to teach people basketball AND how to read? That's too much for me tbh
Good lord man..... you suck
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:39 am to Crewz
Hill is based on potential, and he plays a different role than QPon. He's a 3/4 switch wing, small ball 4. We simply don't have that and needed it desperately. QPon is a 2/3 guy. He also has high high defensive potential and has improved his shot every year.
It was a gamble based on need and potential.
It was a gamble based on need and potential.
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