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So, who can they get to be a back up center?
Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:53 am
Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:53 am
I like Hayes, but he's no where near ready.
Full disclosure: I'm absolutely over the moon this is all I have to bitch about
Full disclosure: I'm absolutely over the moon this is all I have to bitch about
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Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:55 am to geauxtigers87
Nobody. They are too close to the tax to really make any maneuvers.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:57 am to TigerinATL
I figured as much, and I doubt it's worth using any of the draft capital they've accumulated
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:14 am to geauxtigers87
Thankfully If Hayes continues to struggle there are some passable options still lingering out there that we could shuffle through to give us 5-10 minutes a night if we need to go that route:
- Taj Gibson
- John Henson
- Tyson Chandler
- Dewayne Dedmon
- Kyle O’Quinn
- Ilysova
But I’m guessing Hayes will get a half dozen to a dozen games before we start down that path. Maybe Tiger or someone can go into the cap issues, but it would shock me if this team continues to plummet with Adam’s off the floor or if an injury/covid issue pops up and we don’t make a move...Unless they secretly think Hernangomez is the answer?
- Taj Gibson
- John Henson
- Tyson Chandler
- Dewayne Dedmon
- Kyle O’Quinn
- Ilysova
But I’m guessing Hayes will get a half dozen to a dozen games before we start down that path. Maybe Tiger or someone can go into the cap issues, but it would shock me if this team continues to plummet with Adam’s off the floor or if an injury/covid issue pops up and we don’t make a move...Unless they secretly think Hernangomez is the answer?
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:19 am to Bronc
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Unless they secretly think Hernangomez is the answer?
What about Gabriel? Honestly I don’t know much about him but some on here seem to think highly of him. Is his injury somewhat serious?
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:43 am to Bronc
Wouldn’t be mad with John Henson at all
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:48 am to Bronc
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Unless they secretly think Hernangomez is the answer?
Admittedly, we only saw a few minutes of him in the preseason, but my take based on that was that he's a downgrade from Okafor at that position. Very disappointing.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:55 am to STEVED00
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What about Gabriel?
According to BBall reference he was estimated to play 16% of his minutes at center, so maybe, but it still feels like if Hayes isn’t gonna be reliable enough that we would probably need to bring in someone.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:59 am to Bronc
What's up with gabriel, haven't hear much about his injury
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:59 am to heauxfeauxsheaux
Injury but as far as I know they haven’t gave too many details other than his knee
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:07 am to Bronc
Looking back who would have been a better pick at that spot?
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:12 am to PUB
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Looking back would have been a better pick at that spot?
Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:14 am to geauxtigers87
There’s also Will Magnay, our two way center. Don’t think he’s playing yet (visa problem maybe). He might be worth a closer look.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:00 am to PUB
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Looking back would have been a better pick at that spot?
I think the obvious answer right now is Reddish.
Guy is blowing up and looks like a true 2-way 3 and D forward that can guard 2-4 and even 1-5 in short bursts.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:05 am to Bronc
Our best option for this year would be trading Melli or Hayes and a pick for someone. One of those salaries must go out for us to add anyone worth while. But they will try Gabriel first.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:13 am to Jon1798
Not until March, but maybe something like Melli, Willie H and a pick for Nerlens Noel
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:21 am to Jon1798
Unfortunately, I don’t think either of them have any real value aside from being upside filler in a bigger trade.
Though while I’m starting to feel my draft night skepticism was more rightly placed than I had allowed some on here to convince me otherwise, I don’t know I really want to give up on Hayes until we at least get another full season and see where things stand. If he still seems like he hasn’t put anything together after 70 more games, then yeah, it’s probably time to stop thinking of him as a long term core piece, but he is someone that probably more than any other player was negatively affected by the shortened offseason and new system.
Is it really not possible to bring in a guy like Taj or Henson on a minimum contract? I’m asking because others seem to think the cap makes it impossible
Though while I’m starting to feel my draft night skepticism was more rightly placed than I had allowed some on here to convince me otherwise, I don’t know I really want to give up on Hayes until we at least get another full season and see where things stand. If he still seems like he hasn’t put anything together after 70 more games, then yeah, it’s probably time to stop thinking of him as a long term core piece, but he is someone that probably more than any other player was negatively affected by the shortened offseason and new system.
Is it really not possible to bring in a guy like Taj or Henson on a minimum contract? I’m asking because others seem to think the cap makes it impossible
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:33 am to Bronc
We are about $500,000 under the luxury tax. And while going barely over doesn’t sound like that big of a deal, it prevents you from sharing in the spread of the luxury tax funds, and opens you up to possible repeater tax penalties if you go over next season. So I think you can pretty much count on us not going over for any reason. Someone must go out.
If there was someone really worth it, I think you could trade Melli and a second into someone’s open cap space to free the money. But Melli or Hayes must go out IMO
If there was someone really worth it, I think you could trade Melli and a second into someone’s open cap space to free the money. But Melli or Hayes must go out IMO
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:54 am to STEVED00
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What about Gabriel? Honestly I don’t know much about him but some on here seem to think highly of him. Is his injury somewhat serious?
In terms of weight Gabriel is a little small at PF. He's definitely too small to play center on a consistent basis.
In some matchups we might get away with it, but it's not a long term solution.
On his injury, it's day to day.
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/24/20 at 11:02 am to Bronc
quote:He wasn't even supposed to really get minutes last season.
Though while I’m starting to feel my draft night skepticism was more rightly placed than I had allowed some on here to convince me otherwise, I don’t know I really want to give up on Hayes
He was always going to be a multi year project and should be viewed as such. There's no real benefit at all IMO to trading him and a pick to get a meh return. It's a short term play, and we still don't know what Hayes will be in 3 years.
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