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re: So we have 4 definite pieces of the core now?
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:45 am to Billy Mays
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:45 am to Billy Mays
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Kira becomes Mike Conley we have a 3 for sure.
Kira's game is nothing like Conley's
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Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:59 am to Brettesaurus Rex
This team has two core players. Meaning management will want them here as long as they will choose to be here.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:01 pm to 504Voodoo
Kira is kinda a poor man's Morant
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:08 pm to Pelefraan 1
Everybody talking about Hart not being a core piece or only a 6th man. I think he has a better chance of being our future SG then Lonzo and NAW combined.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:12 pm to Pelefraan 1
I wouldn’t label Kira a core piece before he’s played a game.
BI & Zion
everyone else is expendable.
But Zo & Hart play their roles pretty well.
BI & Zion
everyone else is expendable.
But Zo & Hart play their roles pretty well.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:13 pm to BayouRat15
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Hart = Iguodala
Ummm you should watch some film on young and prime Iggy.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:19 pm to SLafourche07
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And by that I mean I wouldn’t list any of them as core pieces right now.
Yeah no rookie is a core player unless they’re Zion
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:19 pm to Pelefraan 1
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Kira
?
BI
Zion
?
Kira is not a definite core piece. He is an asset at this point like any of our other young guys. Don't act like he was a top 3 pick
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I don't think Kira gets traded this year by any means but I'm not yet ready to call him a core piece. I think he could be one in the future. Way too early to tell.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:24 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Iggy started his career with
82 GP. 33 min per
82 GP. 37.5 min per
76 GP. 40. min per
Hart
63 GP. 23 min per
67 GP. 25.6 min per
65 GP. 27 min per
Hart also has only started 61 games in his career which isn't a full season. Seasons 3-4 and 4-5 are when guys like Iggy/ Joe Harris started going off. Hart is already close to that pace and hasn't had the minutes and time they had. If he starts playing 30 min with a defined role then I'm not sure anyone can project his ceiling yet.
82 GP. 33 min per
82 GP. 37.5 min per
76 GP. 40. min per
Hart
63 GP. 23 min per
67 GP. 25.6 min per
65 GP. 27 min per
Hart also has only started 61 games in his career which isn't a full season. Seasons 3-4 and 4-5 are when guys like Iggy/ Joe Harris started going off. Hart is already close to that pace and hasn't had the minutes and time they had. If he starts playing 30 min with a defined role then I'm not sure anyone can project his ceiling yet.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:28 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Hart is absolutely a core player
Our fans are enamored with Hart bc we have never seen a likable, somewhat talented player give 110% effort night in and night out
On a macro level he’s just a guy
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:32 pm to GynoSandberg
No I'm enamored because we have not seen his true potential and he has only grown. I'm not sure BI, Lonzo, or Hart had much if not any development on that Lakers team. People keep saying he's just a guy in years 3 with less than a season of started games when people are foaming out the mouth for Harris who didn't do shite his first few seasons.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 12:35 pm to Pelefraan 1
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Kira is kinda a poor man's Morant
I believe the same, minus the fearlessness in the lane and dunking ability.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:02 pm to Dantheman504
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Everybody talking about Hart not being a core piece or only a 6th man. I think he has a better chance of being our future SG then Lonzo and NAW combined.
A SG who can't create his own shot? Hart is not an offensive creator and can't do anything in a half-court offense other than catch-and-shoot 3s, and he only hit 34% of those last year, which isn't anything to brag about.
That's why Hart, as great as he is at several things, is unlikely to become a starter.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:10 pm to Dantheman504
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No I'm enamored because we have not seen his true potential
What is left to unlock with him?
He’s a 4 year college guy and 3 in the league. You know what you are getting with him at this point, that’s part of the appeal. He’s a nice player and won’t break the bank when the time comes but he’s not some untouchable
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:15 pm to GOP_Tiger
Not to pile on but I agree.
Hart is the type of player that if he is your 7th or 8th man you are really happy.
If he is a starter or your 6th man, it’s probably because you are either incredibly top heavy, in which case maybe? But more likely it’s because things aren’t where they need to be.
Love Hart, hope he can stick around and be our 7th man, but I don’t really ever see him as our long term starter unless he develops in a way he hasn’t yet demonstrated.
At this point my hope would be for NAw to develop into that 6th man. He has all the skills you would look for in such a role, and we know he has the talent, his problem has just been mental. Which tbf isn’t something every player can put together.
Hart is the type of player that if he is your 7th or 8th man you are really happy.
If he is a starter or your 6th man, it’s probably because you are either incredibly top heavy, in which case maybe? But more likely it’s because things aren’t where they need to be.
Love Hart, hope he can stick around and be our 7th man, but I don’t really ever see him as our long term starter unless he develops in a way he hasn’t yet demonstrated.
At this point my hope would be for NAw to develop into that 6th man. He has all the skills you would look for in such a role, and we know he has the talent, his problem has just been mental. Which tbf isn’t something every player can put together.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:16 pm to GynoSandberg
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He’s a 4 year college guy and 3 in the league.
Yeah Hart is a finished product. He is what he is.
And he is a really useful player. Everyone would love to have a Hart on their team.
But in no universe is he a "core player" unless you are REALLY stretching the definition of core.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 4:58 pm to BayouRat15
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Hart = Iguodala
Not quite... Igoudala averaged between 17 and 20 ppg for four straight seasons in his prime. Hart will never be that. He’s a quality 3 and D guy, but he’s not prime Igoudala good. Maybe old Igoudala good
Posted on 11/20/20 at 4:59 pm to BigTimer23
Fair to say Hart = Warriors Iggy
Posted on 11/20/20 at 5:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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Yeah Hart is a finished product. He is what he is.
There is room for his 3P to develop further if he finds consistency with his shot. I can see him maxing out as a Bodgan type guy if everything goes right for him.
Either way he will make a lot of money in the league as is. He’s going to play 10+ years
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