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re: Shams says Pelicans are “aggressively pursuing” a top 2-3 pick for Scoot
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:29 pm to Jar_Jar_80
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:29 pm to Jar_Jar_80
quote:but there’s been trades in the past that get some buzz and leak and eventually come true. Works both ways
teams leaking stuff trying to get better offers, look at the Adams and Val trade a few years ago it just happened no lead up when teams are serious about getting something done they keep quiet.
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:29 pm to Jar_Jar_80
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Yeah any time report's like this gets out a trade never goes down. It's teams leaking stuff trying to get better offers, look at the Adams and Val trade a few years ago it just happened no lead up when teams are serious about getting something done they keep quiet.
That wasn't a huge blockbuster trade either. These big trades always get leaks coming out before it actually happens, it happened with the CJ trade. The only big trade we never seen anything about was the KD deal and that’s because both teams made a pact to keep it quiet.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:30 pm to Soggymoss
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t's going to take Scoot a season or two to really become a force
Its only going to take Zion TWO MORE WEEKS
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:31 pm to Soggymoss
Haven’t read the entire thread, but If Shams is reporting this, folks should remember he has legitimate links and ties to Zion.
Shams and Jordy are historically the only 2 media types that Zion’s camp shares any info with.
Shams and Jordy are historically the only 2 media types that Zion’s camp shares any info with.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:32 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:I'm just happy you came around and no longer have us sending out the best player in the DEAL and 5 1sts.
Now will folks listen???
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:33 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:His ceiling is plenty good enough as a #2.
Its more a soft reset and its nothing against BI but we know what kinda ceiling he has with this team now.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:34 pm to Soggymoss
quote:You think Scoot would be better than BI year 1?
Tell me how would we be taking a step back?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:36 pm to shel311
Scoot is unlikely to be on BIs level for at least 3 years (if ever).
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:37 pm to Fun Bunch
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Scoot is unlikely to be on BIs level for at least 3 years (if ever).
Scoot comp is Prime Westbrook (Which people forget was a league MVP)
BI will never sniff that
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:38 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Scoot is unlikely to be on BIs level for at least 3 years (if ever).
You don’t think Scoot can make more than 1 all star game?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:38 pm to shel311
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You think Scoot would be better than BI year 1?
Ingram wasn’t playing when Zion had this team as the best in the west, so this is a moot point.
I would much rather trust throwing the entire team and the “leadership” role to Zion as a motivator to get him to start taking shite seriously and knowing this is HIS team than to be fighting for a play in spot every year which is our ceiling with Ingram as the “leader” as shown the last two years.
Zion gets his health right, as the undisputed leader of this team he brings a championship here in the next 3-5 years. Get him a running mate like Scoot ALONG with the space under the tax to bring in someone to take playing pressure off like Collins also? Zion brings multiple championships in his career here.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:38 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Portland is kind of in limbo ownership wise so i could see the front office and coaching staff having more power to make this type "win now" trade than most franchises.
Paul was invested but his sister Jody inherited Trailblazers and is secretly shopping the team. I do not see her as invested long term and winning next year would increase the value and options for a sale.
Paul was invested but his sister Jody inherited Trailblazers and is secretly shopping the team. I do not see her as invested long term and winning next year would increase the value and options for a sale.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:39 pm to 50_Tiger
A) it takes even great players awhile to adjust to the league and be true difference makers.
B) Do you want me to list top 3 draft picks that were compared to AllTime Greats that sucked arse?
B) Do you want me to list top 3 draft picks that were compared to AllTime Greats that sucked arse?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:39 pm to Macintosh
quote:
You don’t think Scoot can make more than 1 all star game?
I think Scoot’s ceiling is higher than BIs.
Y’all are missing what my only point was.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:40 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
A) it takes even great players awhile to adjust to the league and be true difference makers.
Scoot been in the G-league for 2 years now.
quote:
B) Do you want me to list top 3 draft picks that were compared to AllTime Greats that sucked arse?
Nobody believes that Scoot is gonna suck arse. NO ONE.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:42 pm to 50_Tiger
No one believed that a lot of players would suck arse.
I don’t believe that Scoot will suck arse.
But it’s possible that Scoot will suck arse.
I don’t believe that Scoot will suck arse.
But it’s possible that Scoot will suck arse.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:43 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Every top pick has as comp of a player that good. The vast majority don't hit that mark.
Scoot comp is Prime Westbrook (Which people forget was a league MVP)
BI will never sniff that
I can't say myself as I don't follow it, but even a guy like KoC while he loves Scoot, just the other day on I can't recall which pod, he was saying it's no guarantee that he's going to be THAT good.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:43 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
But it’s possible that Scoot will suck arse
Possibly and with BI on this team the last 4 years we’ve sucked arse. I’ll take the chance.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:44 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Wait, you think that Zion team without BI could have actually beaten Denver in a playoff series?
Ingram wasn’t playing when Zion had this team as the best in the west, so this is a moot point.
Because that's the only way it makes sense to say it's a moot point. If not, then the point certainly matters.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:45 pm to Fun Bunch
Man idk about this plan…it’s a bold plan, high variance…I’d really like to keep Ingram if at all possible.
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