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re: Per Keith Pompey (76ers beat writer) Harden expected to re-join Houston in FA

Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by saints5021
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:51 pm to
I guess Houston has better strip clubs than Philly
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10828 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 6:48 pm to
If Harden leaves, do the Sixers do a rebuild?

There are rumblings that Embiid is not happy and wants to be dealt. Offseason is going to be crazy..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 7:48 pm to
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I’m not sure Zion would fetch Julius Randle at this point.

Come the frick on
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:07 pm to
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There are rumblings that Embiid is not happy and wants to be dealt

Who could even legit make a play?

Utah?

OKC?

Us?

Memphis?

Orlando?

With so many deals post-AD gutting so many teams of draft capital, and so few other teams accumulating those picks, the number of teams who can do a standard mega deal is small. I don't think any of them are in big markets, either.

Who is out:

Lakers
Minny
Brooklyn
Houston (assuming they get Harden)
ATL
MIL
PHO
CHI
CLE
DEN

Who is not likely

CHA
DET
TOR

BOS
DAL
GS


Teams that I'm not sure about

IND
WAS
NYK
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:18 pm to
Stop the drugs
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7184 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:41 pm to
Feel like

Harden
Green
Kenyon Martin
Jabari Smith Jr
Sengun

Tari Smith Jr and KPJ off the bench

Has the potential to be a solid bunch.

Tbh their record this year was extremely deceiving. They lost a lot of late leads. That’s what made it so frustrating that we managed to blow a game against them. Bc they were young, inexperienced and tanking.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10828 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Who could even legit make a play?


The one I saw, they talked about Portland dealing Lillard. Then it became Portland looking to add a star.

They have the #3 pick, Simons, Sharpe and some other filler, plus future picks. So it would look something like:

Simon's, Sharpe, Thybulle, Nurkic, #3 and some future 1sts.

For

Embiid and Tucker.

Pretty much guts the Blazers. But they can resign Grant and fill out the rest with minimum vets (perhaps take a flyer on a one year deal for Dillon Brooks).

Sixers would have a good jump on a rebuild. I don't know about the fit with Maxey and Simons. But it's not a bad return. Similar to what we got for Davis..
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:18 pm to
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NYK


The national guys on the hoop collective/lowe post were insinuating heavily that New York would love to get in the Embiid sweepstakes if that becomes a thing.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:29 pm to
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Who could even legit make a play?


I really don’t know if they could / can, but a lot of the Warriors fans up here talking about Embiid.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
952 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:30 pm to
I would trade CJ to Philly for future draft choices. CJ would be a good fit for Philly and a trade provides the Pels with cap flexibility.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:32 pm to
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I’m not sure Zion would fetch Julius Randle at this point.
I doubt anyone wants Randle at this point. I'm not sure he has any positive value.

He certainly shouldn't.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112438 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Did you see Jokic sucking air late in the game yesterday? Dude was completely gassed.
Ok then what would you call it if a guy is sucking air like that in the playoffs but not just late in the game but by mid 2nd quarter every single playoff game to the point where his performance is consistently much worse every postseason?

That's Embiid. You're comparing it to one Jokic incident where he still is performing at the highest level of any player in the NBA this postseason.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10828 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:46 pm to
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I doubt anyone wants Randle at this point. I'm not sure he has any positive value.



The way you hammer him makes me think you have something personal against the guy. Did he cut you off in traffic or something?

He was all-NBA for 2nd time in 3 years, but he is a negative asset cause his play slipped in the playoffs when he was hurt?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112438 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:49 pm to
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I would trade CJ to Philly for future draft choices. CJ would be a good fit for Philly and a trade provides the Pels with cap flexibility
If CJ is your salary match for Embiid, zero chance you're getting any traction without adding Herb and Trey to the offer.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112438 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:51 pm to
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The way you hammer him makes me think you have something personal against the guy. Did he cut you off in traffic or something?
No, i watch him play.

If you watched him this postseason, what would possibly make you think what I said was wrong?

What value should a guy have that literally gives zero effort whatsoever on both sides of the ball unless he has the ball in his hands. You're not honestly arguing he gives effort otherwise, are you?
quote:

He was all-NBA for 2nd time in 3 years, but he is a negative asset cause his play slipped in the playoffs when he was hurt?

He should be negative value because he's a negative basketball player for the reasons above.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 9:52 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10828 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:57 pm to
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He should be negative value because he's a negative basketball player for the reasons above.



That is just not the reality. He is under a tremendous microscope in a tough media market. Multi time all-star that just averaged 25/10/4. He has tons of value and a reasonable contract.

I'm sure the Knicks will shop him, might even move him. But it's not going to cost them anything. It would be a dumb move though and they are going to end up missing him if they do it..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112438 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:06 pm to
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He is under a tremendous microscope in a tough media market
That has nothing to do with anything.

Again, do you watch the games? Do you not agree with that fact that he stands around and does absolutely nothing unless he has the ball in his hands?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10828 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:52 am to
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That has nothing to do with anything.


It's very relevant. He has persevered and exceeded expectations. Even now, the detractors are attacking him and trying to run him out of town (Stephen A). The spotlight on him would break the mass majority of players. He just keeps going.

quote:

Do you not agree with that fact that he stands around and does absolutely nothing unless he has the ball in his hands?


I am sure there are many instances that is the case. He had some rough moments versus the Heat. But once again he was hurt and visibly favoring his ankle (you'd see that if you watch him). Plus going up against an elite defender in Adebayo. He owned his faults and swore to improve this offseason.

It's still a huge leap to negative value..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 9:32 am to
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The national guys on the hoop collective/lowe post were insinuating heavily that New York would love to get in the Embiid sweepstakes if that becomes a thing.

People last year kept trying to talk about the Knicks having some godfather offer but I don't see it. They have all their picks and a couple others, but no real young talent to move on a reasonable deal. RJ Barrett isn't that guy and he's about to get real expensive.

Philly would have to legit be blowing it all up and I just don't see Morey doing that and the fans accepting another tProcess.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 9:34 am to
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The way you hammer him makes me think you have something personal against the guy. Did he cut you off in traffic or something?

Randle is terrible.

If you want to hear great takes on Randle, listen to Russilo talk about him. he had a recent pod where he was getting into detail about how amazing it is to watch Randle b/c of how bad and selfish he is.

quote:

but he is a negative asset cause his play slipped in the playoffs when he was hurt?

He's a negative asset b/c if he doesn't have the ball he doesn't do anything, on offense or defense. He's about as "me" as you can get.
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