re: Per Duncan: Pels have began interviews this morning; list confirmed

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Griffin hired David Blatt and fired him for Tyron Lue.

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Griffin said he would not have hired Blatt if he had known ahead of time that Lebron was going to be there. Stylistically they did not fit. Firing Blatt was the right move and they won a ring.

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Griffin said he would not have hired Blatt if he had known ahead of time that Lebron was going to be there. Stylistically they did not fit. Firing Blatt was the right move and they won a ring.

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Not waiting to hire Blatt was a mistake. He should have known Cleveland had a good shot at Lebron

In general I don’t see any benefit to Griffin except that he has a ring. If he doesn’t have a ring, he’s probably not in this pool. I group him with Ferry in this. Two guys that were the major reason their teams underperformed

Edit: and hiring a coach is a HUGE factor for this hire that y’all are ignoring in this thread. I don’t think Gentry will be here more than 1 more season. The new GM will generally fire the current coach when they rebuild the team in their image

Here’s my wish list, in order:

Rozas
Langdon

Harris

Griffin
Ferry

(I exclude Sheppard, he will be hired by the Wizards)

Potential over experience. The experience in this pool is bad quality. If they have experience, they didn’t do well, outside of Griffin’s one ring which is all on Lebron

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One thing that scares the shite out of me about Griffen:

He was the one that convinced everyone to take Bennett #1. He lobbied extremely hard for him. Ownership originally wanted Oladipo and Chris Grant did not want Bennett. But he lobbied so hard he convinced everyone else and they took Bennett.

And that isn't spin, Griffen admits it and says it was all him and he fricked up bad.

Its good that he admits it and realizes his mistakes, but man was that a total frick up.

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I mentioned it in other threads, but if you look at his record and dig beneath the surface it is hard to make a convincing case that Griffin is your guy. You can probably make the case(and I would) that he is better than the Lebron era suggests(and worse than his most staunch fans suggest), but I'm not sure you get much further than landing somewhere in the above average to average category.

He's not particularly savvy at coaching hires. He's got a pretty poor track record with the draft, his roster construction is a bit of a mixed bag that does deserve some leeway due to his situation, but overall he doesn't jump off the page impressing me the way Rosas or even Langdon does.

You'll have to expand for me the rumors, I'm not sure what you are referring to?

As to Gersson Rosas, he's the Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations for the most analytically driven franchise in the NBA, responsible for the team’s player personnel matters, overseeing domestic and international scouting, and the player development program. Where they rely upon and incorporate analytics into everything they do. As to his fluency, he's regularly one of the speakers at Sloan and has garnered a strong reputation around the league for having a strong mind in that department. I don't know the guy, but it seems amongst those that do, and amongst those that others regard highly, they think fairly highly of this guy.

Along with checking off most of the boxes you want(or at least the ones I'm keeping an eye on).

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I mentioned it in other threads, but if you look at his record and dig beneath the surface it is hard to make a convincing case that Griffin is your guy.

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he's real;ly good on TV and i think that's where most ppl are getting a positive impression of his intelligence and team building skills

i'm with you i think its a mirage

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One thing that scares the shite out of me about Griffen:

He was the one that convinced everyone to take Bennett #1. He lobbied extremely hard for him. Ownership originally wanted Oladipo and Chris Grant did not want Bennett. But he lobbied so hard he convinced everyone else and they took Bennett.

And that isn't spin, Griffen admits it and says it was all him and he fricked up bad.

Its good that he admits it and realizes his mistakes, but man was that a total frick up.

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I dont want anything to do with him.

The Bennett pick was historically bad. The crazy part to me was pretty much everybody knew it was bad as soon as it happened. You didnt even have to wait for it to play out, as soon as it happened it was bad.

And he only halfway takes the blame. The other half he puts on Bennett.

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“The issue with Anthony was, and we had no way of knowing it at the time, the kid had no desire to overcome adversity whatsoever. As soon as it was hard, he was out,” (David) Griffin said. “His whole life, he rolled out of bed bigger, better, and more talented than everybody else. As soon as it was hard, it was over. And I was the one on campus at UNLV. I’m the one who got sold the bill of goods and I bought it hook, line, and sinker.

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What a bunch of crap. The reason he failed wasnt because he couldnt overcome adversity, the reason he failed was because he isnt a very good basketball player and you thought he was the best player in the draft.

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He was also 2nd in command when they drafted Waiters.

Also I've seen some people saying that he's not big on analytics.

I don't know

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Nope, no, please no

I would feel more comfortable about Langdon if we were hiring a POBO. I wonder if he lack of experience could be a detriment in such a large turnaround of an organization.

We need to take chances. We have a shite organization right now and things are going downhill. We need to mix things up. Rozas and Langdon are the most likely ones to do something different, and they both show talent. Langdon could be in over his head, but I’d rather a chance on him than anyone besides Rozas