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re: Pels getting the long list of GM candidates from search firm next week
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:10 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:10 am to TigerinATL
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I don't buy the "clusterfrick organization" excuse. It's not like the problem is Loomis/Benson meddling, the problem is there's not enough supervision if you put the wrong person in charge.
How is not caring much not a clusterfrick organization?
Funny many Pels fans acknowledge how bad the organization has been for years, but when a potential GM candidate says the organization is a shite show, we don't want to believe it.
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:13 am to cgrand
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how equipped would you be to manage your affairs if after 6th grade nobody cared or asked about your scholastic efforts?
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we point and laugh at the pseudo intellectualism of a player like LeBron or Davis and we forget that they basically have the mind of a child.
Not to get too off topic, but this isn't just a basketball or sports problem.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:15 am to corndeaux
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How is not caring much not a clusterfrick organization?
Because on the basketball side of things the GM has pretty full autonomy. Not being a clusterfrick is by no means a pass for the Benson Empire. Had he said not willing to go big on infrastructure or short sighted or even just shite show it instantly becomes more believable. But clusterfrick makes me think of a convoluted organizational structure where it's hard to cut through the red tape to get what you need. That doesn't seem to describe the situation to me at all.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:16 am to corndeaux
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this isn't just a basketball or sports problem.
The robots taking over probably is happening at a good time for humanity.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:40 am to corndeaux
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Not to get too off topic, but this isn't just a basketball or sports problem.
i guess, but 99.9% of today's young dumbasses aren't tasked with managing the affairs of a multi-million dollar brand commodity
Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:19 pm to corndeaux
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How is not caring much not a clusterfrick organization?
Funny many Pels fans acknowledge how bad the organization has been for years, but when a potential GM candidate says the organization is a shite show, we don't want to believe it.
Yeah, I took it as an all encompassing kind of thing
One of my theories is, they already told Ferry he will never be GM bc of how it would look in a city like New Orleans.. so he will get out ahead of that and leave on his own accord after the contract runs out
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:11 am to TigerinATL
I agree with much of your description.
Still not sure how much autonomy Demps was given to beef up scouting, analytics, training staff, salary for coaches, etc etc etc. Basically, how much of a green light is there really? Or is it more "we'll leave you alone, just make sure you turn a profit?"
I think we're just parsing the word clusterfrick a little differently.
And, like Gyno says, maybe there's a different context for what Ferry is saying. Maybe he doesn't want the job or was told he can't get it. Still seems like an odd way to phrase those feelings in, what sounds like, an off the record situation.
Still not sure how much autonomy Demps was given to beef up scouting, analytics, training staff, salary for coaches, etc etc etc. Basically, how much of a green light is there really? Or is it more "we'll leave you alone, just make sure you turn a profit?"
I think we're just parsing the word clusterfrick a little differently.
And, like Gyno says, maybe there's a different context for what Ferry is saying. Maybe he doesn't want the job or was told he can't get it. Still seems like an odd way to phrase those feelings in, what sounds like, an off the record situation.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:19 am to cgrand
Sure, but there are a lot of wealthy, non athlete people who think (and are told) they are much smarter and more important than they are. Whose parents don't ever care about their grades (or will spend $$$ to get them into schools). Who ply their trade in pseudo-intellectualism/moral-philosophizing from a place of immense privilege.
We have a president who's main strengths are inheriting money, being great at Twitter, and always, no matter the situation, demanding that he is right. It's no shock that other wealthy people (of all types) will be out of touch with reality when this is the cultural norm.
We have a president who's main strengths are inheriting money, being great at Twitter, and always, no matter the situation, demanding that he is right. It's no shock that other wealthy people (of all types) will be out of touch with reality when this is the cultural norm.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:31 pm to corndeaux
Was listening to Jerry West on the Steven A. Smith show earlier and he was talking about Michael Winger who is now the GM for the Clippers. Looks like he worked with Ferry about 10 years or so ago.
What do you guys think about him as POBO with Ferry as GM?
What do you guys think about him as POBO with Ferry as GM?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:53 pm to TigerinATL
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A search firm has been parsing out candidates and is expected to provide ownership a list of 5-10 names next week.
it is "next week" now FWIW
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:02 pm to cgrand
I almost posted the same thing in this thread yesterday. Where is NolaJake or the BSS guys to call out the Pels FO on a podcast?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:26 pm to DeionDeion
quote:I don't think this list will be, or even should be, public.
I almost posted the same thing in this thread yesterday. Where is NolaJake or the BSS guys to call out the Pels FO on a podcast?
Im sure names will leak, but I don't think we're gonna be getting search updates from the Pelicans
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:57 pm to DeionDeion
It's not a public process. There are also teams who might not want to let the Pelicans interview people on their staff until the end of the season/post-season.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:32 pm to cgrand
To be fair, they did say the list would be provided to ownership, not Pels Talk 
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:26 pm to Unknown_Poster
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There are also teams who might not want to let the Pelicans interview people on their staff until the end of the season/post-season.
that’s not really an nba thing
pels interviewed and hired Gentry in the middle of the nba finals
Posted on 3/21/19 at 2:53 pm to cgrand
the other team looking for a new GM
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In the early stages of the Suns' GM search, Phoenix has spoken to TNT's Kevin McHale (former Wolves GM & coach + former Rockets coach) and likewise has interest in Bulls consultant Jim Paxson (former Cavs GM), league sources say
Posted on 3/21/19 at 3:02 pm to cgrand
There would be riots on here if we were looking at McHale and Paxson. 
Man the Benson org plays things close to the vest. Not a peep.
Man the Benson org plays things close to the vest. Not a peep.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 3:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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There would be riots on here if we were looking at McHale and Paxson. Man the Benson org plays things close to the vest. Not a peep.
People can shite on our owners because of the Loomis/Saints angles, but things could be much worse....Exhibit A - Robert Sarver
No one wants to work for him.
Kushner said the process is proceeding, but there are no leaks. Didn’t sound like he expected any either until maybe close to the end.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 3/21/19 at 3:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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Man the Benson org plays things close to the vest. Not a peep.
impressive huh
Posted on 3/21/19 at 3:15 pm to Chad504boy
That's always the case with them. Mickey and Lauscha always keep things tight.
If something is leaking its because they want it to.
If something is leaking its because they want it to.
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