re: Pels get the #1 pick, who would you want to draft?

Porzingas's issues are entirely injury based. Had he remained relatively healthy he was a true unicorn, a switchable rim protecting stretch big that can also play in the post.

Which is the concern with someone like Chet with his height.

And the reason he is coming out is the same reason any top 5 pick comes out, the reason Sharpe is coming out despite never playing a game in college: money.

Chet will make 10+ million and the sooner he gets to that lucrative second contract the better. And the sooner a player gets to the pros the more overall money they can project to cash in over their career. And regardless what BRmark thinks, one of the top 3 teams will be taking Chet, so it would be insane to stay in school in his situation.

Danger with Holmgren IMO is that his NBA proxy may be more like Luke Kornet than KD (or even Porzingis). He is a dude that could end up being virtually unplayable if he can’t hold up defensively.

People worried about Holmgren being a bean pole, he will gain weight in the NBA.





You're also worried about him banging with big centers. Most big centers won't be able to stay on the court when he's playing. He'll be a weapon in the pick n roll & pick n' pop. He shot roughly 40% from 3 and has a good midrange shot. If you play big bulky centers against him, they'll be defending 17-25 ft from the rim. On defense, he's still an elite shot blocker and can absolutely protect the rim. He'll add weight like all NBA players do. He'd most likely still have JV for a year while he gets his body right.

I honestly don't know if there's a better big man match for Zion than Chet.

Shaedon Sharpe making news today over his Vert.

Because he is seen as a top 4 prospect this year and it may not last if his flaws get exposed in the NCAA.


A good example of this is Perry Jones III. He was seen as a potential top 3 pick, if not too overall pick, before returning to Baylor.

He came out the next year and went late in the first to OKC because people saw enough film on him that his negatives outweighed the potential he was thought to have.

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Anthony Davis in college was maybe 15 lbs heavier than Chet. Not really a big deal.

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I like Chet, I have him in my top 2. But the weight and strength is worth talking about. Not everyone puts on weight the way Anthony Davis did. Maybe he does put on weight, maybe he doesn't. Who knows for sure, personally I don't think the frame is great and he'll have trouble really progressing weight and strength wise. His numbers are good but when teams were able to put a body on him this season he was pushed around quite a lot. And that's in the West Coast Conference.

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I still don't get why he is coming out. He should stay at Gonzaga the whole way. I wouldn't touch prospects that raw.

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What? He's a 7 footer who can dribble, pass, score from anywhere on the floor, with elite rim protecting abilities. He is in no way a "Raw" prospect.

He's a lock to go in the top 3. Why on earth would he go back to college?

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Every team has a guy that could just bang Chet into the 20th row. Just look at these playoffs. Embiid, Bam, Ayton, Giannis, Draymond, Steven Adams.

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First off, no one gives a shite about Draymond and Adams on offense.
Second, who's built to stop Embiid or Giannis?

Chet isn't a 5 that is going to go up against Jokic and Embiid. He's a small ball 5.

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You could even go one step further and look at wings that could probably really get into his body. Butler, Crowder, Smart, etc etc.

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Watch Chet's highlights and see what happens when smaller guys try to get into his body. He embarrasses them with the blocks he makes. For being so skinny, he does a great job of absorbing the contact and still being able to actually jump and block shots. You watch him against Duren from Memphis and Duren backs him down easily, and Chet does what he can but he can't stop him, but he somehow manages to stay in a position to block or alter his shot.
Chet would be better served as the 4 with a guy like JV handling the bigger 5's of the league, like what Jax does, i just think he'll be 10x's better than Jax on both ends of the floor.


Something that not many people talk about with him is his passing. He grabs boards and starts the break, he finds cutters in the half court, and he ran a great high/low game with Timme.

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You're also worried about him banging with big centers. Most big centers won't be able to stay on the court when he's playing. He'll be a weapon in the pick n roll & pick n' pop. He shot roughly 40% from 3 and has a good midrange shot

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Yep...and there's a reason Steven Adams had been benched for the playoffs, while making $25M or so...and it's NOT Covid. With a very few exceptions, big, slow centers are a dying breed.

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Holmgren can make close to 8 figures a year right now playing college ball.

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Or he could make guaranteed 8 figures starting in 2 months, on top of probably 20 million + in ads.

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It is the dream of tons of players.

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But the NBA is the ultimate dream for a basketball player.

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He will play for a horrible team and be put through the grinder.

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Not necessarily. There's really only 2 or 3 true dumpster fires in the NBA right now. A bunch of the teams in the lottery could just as easily make the playoffs next year.

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But that 2nd contract, that everyone says he should chase, is not guaranteed. He can easily make 20M over the next 3 years at Gonzaga (win a ring and a bunch of awards).

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No one in college is making anywhere close to this money. He could be guarenteed twice that in 2 months by going.

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Then he is still a lock 1st rounder. That's what I would do if I were him. Build a legacy.

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Not necessarily. Anything can happen. Besides the fact that NBA teams would rather draft an 18 year old instead of a 22 year old, he could have one injury that fricks his career.

Look at Justyn Ross from Clemson. Surefire top 10 pick, has one injury, and is now an UDFA.