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re: Pels get the #1 pick, who would you want to draft?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:57 am to SulphursFinest
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:57 am to SulphursFinest
Jabari is generational, easy pick
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:58 am to SulphursFinest
Jaden Ivey
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:00 am to CP3forMVP
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There’s a fine line you have to walk between need and best available in my opinion
This is true if you have a team that's not ready to compete. This season showed we have our stars, now we need the role players to help those stars. Jabari would be our own Cam Johnson, just a straight up knockdown shooter that takes pressure off everyone else.
If we didn't make the the playoffs and show we can hang with the best team in the NBA them I would agree with you, but we ready to make a run for a chip starting next year, and for that to happen we need role players not stars.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:02 am to SulphursFinest
Chet has the potential to be so good as a help side defender while also being able to score. The problem is that itll take him some time to fill that frame.
I personally think Jabari Smith has some riskiness to him. I never saw his iso ability take off. But if we are soley using him to drain 3s and score off of BI, CJ, and Zion's passing, he will work for us obviously. Now if he went to a team where he was needed to have the ball in his hands all the time to create offense, I think he would struggle. JMHO.
Id be cool with Jaden Ivey too. I think he fits our team.
I also like Banchero, but dont know the fit next to Zion.
At the end of the day, if we get a top 4 pick, I will be happy.
I personally think Jabari Smith has some riskiness to him. I never saw his iso ability take off. But if we are soley using him to drain 3s and score off of BI, CJ, and Zion's passing, he will work for us obviously. Now if he went to a team where he was needed to have the ball in his hands all the time to create offense, I think he would struggle. JMHO.
Id be cool with Jaden Ivey too. I think he fits our team.
I also like Banchero, but dont know the fit next to Zion.
At the end of the day, if we get a top 4 pick, I will be happy.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:03 am to Ryan3232
Is that not Trey Murphy and his role going forward?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:06 am to Ryan3232
I'm becoming increasingly intrigued by Chet on this team.
Despite being so skinny, he held his own defensively. Honestly he did more than that, he was very good.
Also has elite 3 point potential and is just extremely skilled.
He has the potential to be such a ridiculously good compliment to what we have, and has the luxury of being to come off the bench for a couple of years if necessary with Jonas on the team. When Jonas' contract expires (or is traded), he should have a few years to gain strength.
I'm not saying I would take him 1st over Jabari, but I am really interested.
Plus the Memes/Comedy that comes from a Zion/Chet pairing would be incredible.
Despite being so skinny, he held his own defensively. Honestly he did more than that, he was very good.
Also has elite 3 point potential and is just extremely skilled.
He has the potential to be such a ridiculously good compliment to what we have, and has the luxury of being to come off the bench for a couple of years if necessary with Jonas on the team. When Jonas' contract expires (or is traded), he should have a few years to gain strength.
I'm not saying I would take him 1st over Jabari, but I am really interested.
Plus the Memes/Comedy that comes from a Zion/Chet pairing would be incredible.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:07 am to SulphursFinest
NOT close...Chet...Chet...Chet...for too many reasons to list.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:08 am to supe12sta12z
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Is that not Trey Murphy and his role going forward?
I mean...think about being able to have Trey, Chet, and BI out there with Zion in some lineups. Say, CJ too.
You've got 4 guys that teams would have to respect on the perimeter.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:11 am to unctiger4
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Chet is the ideal 5 to pair with Zion. Can shoot, rebound, defend his position and hold his own when switched onto guards.
When he played against competition he disappeared
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:15 am to supe12sta12z
quote:Assuming you are talking in relation to Jabari Smith, yes I do believe they would have similar roles. But its like the Suns having Bridges and Cam Johnson. Its never a problem to have too many shooters and wing defenders.
Is that not Trey Murphy and his role going forward?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:16 am to SulphursFinest
I really really really don't get the Chet hate. Why cuz he's skinny? That the only reason? Ingram and KD are just a couple skinny players and I'd say they're pretty awesome. Just me though.
He's one of the most talented players in the draft. He is elite in everything that he does both on offense and defense, and his IQ is off the chains too.
Outside of Jabari Smith, he should be the #1 pick. I wouldn't even consider anyone else outside of those two.
He's one of the most talented players in the draft. He is elite in everything that he does both on offense and defense, and his IQ is off the chains too.
Outside of Jabari Smith, he should be the #1 pick. I wouldn't even consider anyone else outside of those two.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:22 am to Soggymoss
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This season showed we have our stars, now we need the role players to help those stars
When you are picking #1 overall, you aren't drafting a role player, you're drafting a future all-star.
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Jabari would be our own Cam Johnson
If we drafted someone that ended up being Cam Johnson at #1, that's a bust.
If we drafted someone that ended up being Cam Johnson at #8, that's a great pick.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:27 am to A Menace to Sobriety
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I really really really don't get the Chet hate.
With our current roster...he would be the perfect pick. For many other teams...probably not. Which is why I think there could easily be a trade by some team to try and move up to grab Chet, assuming they have a lineup that he "fits". The Pels should be ONE of those teams.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:31 am to DBeaux225
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When he played against competition he disappeared
He was never the main offensive guy for Gonzaga, so i don't know what you expected from a guy who averaged 14ppg in a secondary role.
He proved he can play down low with bigs when he went up against Duren from Memphis. He handled him just fine as Duren was trying to back him down several times.
for a lot of guys, it's easier for them to get points in the NBA than in college where teams can sag off most players and clog the paint. You get to the NBA and all of a sudden it's one on one to the basket b/c the guy that is guarding Zion on the other side of the paint isn't leaving him, and the guy that's guarding Trey in the corner isnt' leaving him either.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:35 am to TeddyPadillac
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When you are picking #1 overall, you aren't drafting a role player, you're drafting a future all-star.
Then for this team you're drafting a guy just for him to bust because we don't have the touches or the role for him to be the player he needs to be.
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we drafted someone that ended up being Cam Johnson at #1, that's a bust
Is it? You can't consider a player a bust if they come in and do exactly what you drafted them to do. Overdrafted maybe, but Smith is projected to go in the top 3, so you're not overdrafting him. What makes a player a bust is him not living up to his draft expectations, and Paolo and maybe Chet would be exactly that if drafted by us.
Also Smith is a far better defender than Cam, he just has that knockdown shooting like cam does
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:50 am to Soggymoss
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This is true if you have a team that's not ready to compete. This season showed we have our stars, now we need the role players to help those stars. Jabari would be our own Cam Johnson, just a straight up knockdown shooter that takes pressure off everyone else.
If we didn't make the the playoffs and show we can hang with the best team in the NBA them I would agree with you, but we ready to make a run for a chip starting next year, and for that to happen we need role players not stars.
I feel like this is an extremely short sighted take.
You don't take Cam Johnson #1 just because he theoretically fits better at this moment if you have Blake Griffin, Chris Webber, or whatever comparisons that have been used for Paolo is on the board. Same goes for a guy like Jaden Ivey.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:53 am to CP3forMVP
If you have 3 guys all rated close to the same, you take the one that fits your team the best plain and simple.
Jabari, Chet and Paolo are all rated 1-3 in no particular order depending on who you ask. You don't take the worst fitting one just because you may have him rated a half point higher.
And also, when I say our own Cam Johnson I don't mean he's going to top out as Cam Johnson, I mean he would be in that role. Jabari is a far better defender and just as good of a shooter coming out of college.
Jabari, Chet and Paolo are all rated 1-3 in no particular order depending on who you ask. You don't take the worst fitting one just because you may have him rated a half point higher.
And also, when I say our own Cam Johnson I don't mean he's going to top out as Cam Johnson, I mean he would be in that role. Jabari is a far better defender and just as good of a shooter coming out of college.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:56 am to SulphursFinest
Jabari Smith
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:59 am to SulphursFinest
Smith since it’s somewhat reasonable he can eventually fit in on the court alongside BI and Zion and Herb.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:03 am to TigerinATL
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I'm not saying I wouldn't want another BI, but everyone that thinks he's a great fit is penciling him in at center. Will he be a center in the NBA?
I think he’ll inevitably grow into it, but he would definitely be a finishing 5 rather than a full time 5 for the first few years. He is for sure a good enough rebounder and shot blocker to play the position in spurts though.
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