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re: Pelicans to have "sitdown" with Greg Oden

Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:42 pm to
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for me, at least, it isn't the fact that I don't think he currently can play a bit. it's more the question of will he be able to stay somewhat healthy. so far, he's been unable to do that for an extended period of time. is that worth the risk of giving up some combination of rivers, smith, miller, and roberts?


I think you have to ask yourself what gives you a better chance to compete for a championship?

A healthy Greg Oden

OR

any of the four players you listed.



Each of those four are backups at best. I'm trading any of them for starter potential any day. They are easily replaceable.

(Only reason I'd think twice about Rivers is his value is going up. I don't expect him to be on this team two years from now)
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68788 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:46 pm to
Not necessarily saying it applies here, but I think we've all become enamored with or over valued certain players just because of the suckage of talent we've lived with on this team over the years
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:46 pm to
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A healthy Greg Oden


Maybe we can sign Sasquatch, too.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:48 pm to
Beast down low. Literally.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:48 pm to
his PER and per 36 minutes numbers are both pretty damn good. if he could put up similar numbers, it's totally worth it. from what we know, it's a total gamble. but i'm sure Dell and the FO know a hell of a lot more than us. i trust them to make the right call. my biggest concern is if he isn't healthy, then you lost assets for nothing. but i suppose that's the gamble you have to take if you want to move to top 5 in the conference.

a well functioning, healthy Oden combined with what the team already has, though...total fap worthy.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:49 pm to
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I think we've all become enamored with or over valued certain players just because of the suckage of talent we've lived with


I hope you're counting Oden. Someone implied earlier that he makes us a championship contender.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:50 pm to
It's a gamble worth taking. Smith is a nice backup but not irreplacable. Rivers' future with this team was ended during draft night. Oden could be all the difference for us this season if he were healthy.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:50 pm to
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it's a total gamble.


Any FA move is a gamble. My point is losing any four replaceable bench players doesn't mean shite in the grand scheme of things. Acquiring talent can catapult you to a whole new level.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18891 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:52 pm to
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Was posting to tehcampikn


I don't know about Oden's health, and I said that I'll trust Demps if he does go and get him, but I'm still wary of a guy with so many knee issues that hasn't played in almost 3 calendar years. Gordon's situation is different because they aren't all knee issues and he's actually been able to at least play a portion of every season. I'm very skeptical about Oden ever producing again and I won't be happy if we give up one of our guys to get him, but I'll give it a chance and wait to see if he can produce.
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:52 pm to
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Someone implied earlier that he makes us a championship contender.


If you're referring to my post I said "better chance to compete for a championship."

Every move the Front Office takes should be in furtherance of that goal, no matter how far away it may seem.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:53 pm to
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Any FA move is a gamble


But trading held assets for a shot in the dark is past risky to sketchy.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:53 pm to
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Someone implied earlier that he makes us a championship contender.



If he's healthy and a part of our core for the next 3-4 years... i think very much so we can contend with the best of them very soon.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:54 pm to
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But trading held assets for a shot in the dark is past risky to sketchy.



that's my biggest thing.

i can't figure out how to embed from basketball reference, so here's the link to his advanced stats. very impressive

LINK
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:55 pm to
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If he's healthy and a part of our core for the next 3-4 years.


If my aunt had a dick
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:55 pm to
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held assets


Smith, Miller, and Roberts are hardly "held assets." They are easily replaceable bench players.

Rivers is another story. If he continues his improvement his stock will rise.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:55 pm to
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If he's healthy and a part of our core for the next 3-4 years... i think very much so we can contend with the best of them very soon


That is such a big 'IF'
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:58 pm to
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That is such a big 'IF'


Rivers, Smith, Miller, and Roberts becoming integral parts of the team are even bigger IFs
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:58 pm to
I think it's a risk worth taking.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:58 pm to
You have to give up either Smith or Rivers. So you lose depth at the 5 to sign a guy who may or may not be able to fill that void you createf, or you trade a top 10 pick before year 2.
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