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re: Pelicans to have "sitdown" with Greg Oden

Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by macatak911
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Nobody is ignoring that minute possibility. Be realistic


Being unrealistic was using my closer to a title claim against me by confining the move to one result.

You can't ignore the possibility of Oden being healthy. That's the reason you make the move.

When looking at the move as a whole, looking at ALL THE POSSIBILITIES....There is a greater chance of competing for a title if you execute the move than if you don't.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Find any source acknowledging an actual offer.





wasn't there a tweet about the offer of 3 million for first year being comparable offer of two other teams?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13729 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:22 pm to
It is worth a shot kicking the tires on Oden. If he did not have the history of injuries, would we even have a shot at him? He could have potentially been a max player at this point in his career without the injuries and we would not have a shot at him. Take the risk.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25666 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:23 pm to
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it means everything when the brightest of minds in the NBA can see the potential reward in what this kid can bring to your roster in a limited role.



I disagree with this. There are 4 teams interested. 2 of them could give me a 3 million dollar contract and still compete, the other 2 are desperate for help at the 5.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:24 pm to
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2 of them could give me a 3 million dollar contract and still compete


so... they still obviously view Oden as a huge asset with limited minutes... same with us.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:24 pm to
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wasn't there a tweet about the offer of 3 million for first year being comparable offer of two other teams?


There was a tweet about an expected $3M offer, but there was no indication where it came from. The Heat will only offer a minimum contract to him, apparently. The whole "expected offer" and no actual meeting happening just screams "false market" to me.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:26 pm to
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When looking at the move as a whole, looking at ALL THE POSSIBILITIES....There is a greater chance of competing for a title if you execute the move than if you don't.


We'll just have to disagree there.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:27 pm to
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wasn't there a tweet about the offer of 3 million for first year being comparable offer of two other teams?


The leak is most likely from the agent and the amount is probably based on expectations. All the teams mentioned either have the $2.65 million cap room MLE to work with, or in the case of Miami, the $3.1 million tax payer MLE. The Pelicans of course would have to do the aforementioned S&T using Portland's cap room MLE.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:27 pm to
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so... they still obviously view Oden as a huge asset with limited minutes... same with us.



A + B = waffles?
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:27 pm to
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We'll just have to disagree there.




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Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:28 pm to
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in the case of Miami, the $3.1 million tax payer MLE.



And the tax hit would mean signing him would cost them $10M per year. Won't happen.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:30 pm to
not really a false market when the pels are bringing the mick in for a sales call with a 3 mill offer.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25666 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:30 pm to
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so... they still obviously view Oden as a huge asset with limited minutes... same with us.



Not at all. Two teams have nothing to lose, therefore their interest does not reveal the value they have in the player.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:33 pm to
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Two teams have nothing to lose


We have little to lose my friend. Zero serious expectations, i mean if you're crying over the loss of a jason smith... as jayjay2 would say... come on man.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:33 pm to
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not really a false market when the pels are bringing the mick in for a sales call with a 3 mill offer.


Yet no meeting happened and no offer has been made.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:36 pm to
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Yet no meeting happened and no offer has been made.


cling to whatever meaning that that actually has. i understand its the last bit of hope you have.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Yet no meeting happened and no offer has been made.


Are you that naive to think offers don't occur without a press release attached to them? You don't think we offered Martell Webster a contract before he signed with Washington? That didn't get reported but after he signed he said he almost came here.

How does one almost come here without even an offer on the table?
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:40 pm to
@McNamara247: There will be a post up later today on BSS that will give every single Oden scenario with regard to how we could acquire him. Hold tight
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178852 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:41 pm to
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Are you that naive to think offers don't occur without a press release attached to them? You don't think we offered Martell Webster a contract before he signed with Washington? That didn't get reported but after he signed he said he almost came here.

How does one almost come here without even an offer on the table?



Jester is still in the denial stage, give him time.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:41 pm to
A certain kid is conspicuously absent....
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