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re: Pelicans, one of the teams, reached out to Portland for Damian Lillard
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:54 pm to Soggymoss
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:54 pm to Soggymoss
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We are a far more talented team overall than Portland even without Zion, and can’t win half our games with Ingram.
We had a shite ton more injuries than BI and Zion. When BI came back we were depleted as frick.
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
But see in my argument Im not trying to trade to keep value or help financially long term when you trade for Dame. When you trade for Dame now- you’re trying to contend for a title now. What happens if you don’t is irrelevant. I agree the value afterwards may not be there or financially is an issue but again trade for Dame means to contend now, thats it.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:03 pm to Pels_Yaz
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But see in my argument Im not trying to trade to keep value or help financially long term when you trade for Dame. When you trade for Dame now- you’re trying to contend for a title now.
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If we keep either BI or Lillard, and the choice we make doesn't win a title,
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What happens if you don’t is irrelevant
This is silly.
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but again trade for Dame means to contend now, thats it.
Dame can't lead a team to the playoff anymore
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:05 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Dame is one of the best players of our generation.
xD
One of the most overrated. He's like a much worse AI. He ain't ever winning shite.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:10 pm to bonethug0180
quote:He's way better than AI, but yes, he's not winning a title as a #1.
One of the most overrated. He's like a much worse AI. He ain't ever winning shite.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:11 pm to shel311
AI played defense and went hard the whole game.
Dame is JUST a scorer/distributor.
And I'll point out even with the last few years of not even hitting 20ppg, he STILL has a better career scoring average than Dame, WITH Dame going off scoring last year.
Which also happens to be the years Dame is heading into.
Dame is JUST a scorer/distributor.
And I'll point out even with the last few years of not even hitting 20ppg, he STILL has a better career scoring average than Dame, WITH Dame going off scoring last year.
Which also happens to be the years Dame is heading into.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:19 pm to bonethug0180
quote:He played passing lanes and got steals but while not worse than Dame, AI was a bad defender too.
AI played defense
quote:But he's wayyyyyyyyy better at this than AI. AI was an inefficient scorer. Dame is efficient, and elite efficiency the past 3 or 4 years.
Dame is JUST a scorer/distributor.
I think there was only 1 year that AI was well over league average in scoring efficiency. A few others right at league average.
quote:3 more shots to get 1.5 more points, due to the inefficiency in his shooting/scoring.
And I'll point out even with the last few years of not even hitting 20ppg, he STILL has a better career scoring average than Dame, WITH Dame going off scoring last year.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dame to Miami. Scoot to New Orleans. BI/Zion to Portland. What would Miami have to give us to make that happen? Just humor me and entertain this very very unlikely scenario. Is there a world where the cap numbers could even work with whoever eating bad contracts to make the money work? Not suggesting it or saying anybody would do it, just want to know if it’s even literally possible.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:29 pm to Hot Carl
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Scoot to New Orleans
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BI/Zion to Portland
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Just humor me
No.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:32 pm to Hot Carl
quote:Lowry would be the most likely dude to salary match to New Orleans. But possibly just Duncan Robinson+Scoot gets there too.
What would Miami have to give us to make that happen?
Without looking, we'd probably have to add 1 or both of Kira/Temple to Portland to salary match...but not 100% sure on that.
quote:From what I can tell, it definitely seems easily doable just based on getting the money to match. Then not sure what MIA has, but they'd have to supply 1sts to Portland, and a shite ton of em...that's where I'm guessing it would be legit to get a realistic return for POR.
Not suggesting it or saying anybody would do it, just want to know if it’s even literally possible.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:35 pm to shel311
Why in the goddamn frick would the Pelicans trade one of Brandon Ingram or Zion for Scoot and Lowry’s trash arse?
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:35 pm to Hot Carl
We need to let Scoot go.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:50 pm to Hailstate15
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Why in the goddamn frick would the Pelicans trade one of Brandon Ingram or Zion for Scoot and Lowry’s trash arse?
They wouldn’t. The discussion was just about if it was possible salary-wise.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Why even discuss it? Whats the purpose?
There isn’t one unless you’re just a dumb 2k fan that thinks that is a good trade.
There isn’t one unless you’re just a dumb 2k fan that thinks that is a good trade.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:10 pm to Hailstate15
Or if you are a fan that just isn’t confident in Zion staying healthy.
But yeah, the Zion for Scoot ship sailed on draft night. I doubt it’s revisited now.
But yeah, the Zion for Scoot ship sailed on draft night. I doubt it’s revisited now.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:12 pm to 3PieceSpicy
There isn’t a universe in the multiverse where a Zion for Scoot+Lowry trade makes any sense. Throwing Ingram in there makes it 10000x worse.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:36 pm to Hailstate15
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Just humor me
No.
Yes, the 1st 7 pages were riveting. My apologies for bringing such an intellectually high level discussion down.
I merely wanted to get a better understanding of how Dame to Miami would even be possible without a 3rd team. I used the Pels as the hypothetical 3rd team because it’s a Pels board and I’m more familiar with what we have. It’s hard for me to see a single team with both the capital—and motivation—to make the trade. There would almost have to be a 3rd—or even 4th—team involved, no?
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:36 pm to Hailstate15
Yeah that’s wild. Maybe if scoot was 6’6 with a 3 pt shot already
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 3:09 pm to Hot Carl
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Yes, the 1st 7 pages were riveting. My apologies for bringing such an intellectually high level discussion down. I merely wanted to get a better understanding of how Dame to Miami would even be possible without a 3rd team. I used the Pels as the hypothetical 3rd team because it’s a Pels board and I’m more familiar with what we have. It’s hard for me to see a single team with both the capital—and motivation—to make the trade. There would almost have to be a 3rd—or even 4th—team involved, no?
The problem with your post is you’re making up a trade scenario for Scoot who Portland would never trade anymore now that Dame has asked out. There’s not a single package any team could put together right now that would pry Scoot away from Portland.
If you would’ve made a post saying “Hey how could we get Nurkic” then people would humor you.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 3:10 pm to Hot Carl
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I merely wanted to get a better understanding of how Dame to Miami would even be possible without a 3rd team
This was already realized like 2 days ago. Dame to Miami doesn’t happen without a third team. In fact it probably won’t happen because of this.
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