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re: Pelicans, one of the teams, reached out to Portland for Damian Lillard

Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:43 am to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:43 am to
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Damn y’all are crazy. This isn’t prime 25 year old Lillard. He’s 33, small and has an albatross of a contract. What do y’all think the Nets and Heat will offer? Here’s a hint, not anything close to packages like this.


That's the point. We have to massively beat those packages. You think we would offer less? Why bother negotiating then? It doesn't make any sense.

People are mad this is a discussion. But evidently the Pelicans are in the mix, so they are offering something. That's what we are speculating about..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:44 am to
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I'm just saying I'd listen to a trade for Dame involving Zion.

Would we get Scoot or Sharpe and some draft capital? If not, then it's a bad deal.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17336 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:44 am to
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Damn y’all are crazy. This isn’t prime 25 year old Lillard. He’s 33, small and has an albatross of a contract. What do y’all think the Nets and Heat will offer? Here’s a hint, not anything close to packages like this.

Yup, we can throw out Ingram, Dyson, Kira and 2 1sts and there’s not a team out there that would beat it. Miami wouldn’t put Butler or Bam up, and Brooklyn wouldn’t put Bridges.

That trade package would only have us 2-3 million into the tax after filling out the roster (easy to get under with a Jonas for Gafford type deal at the deadline), and we still have a pick every single year.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13775 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:47 am to
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That's the point. We have to massively beat those packages.


And why do we have to massively beat those packages? Their packages will be garbage. We just have to have the better package. The Portland GM has to decide if he wants to do right by his team or Lillard.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 10:50 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25787 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:48 am to
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Yup, we can throw out Ingram, Dyson, Kira and 2 1sts and there’s not a team out there that would beat it.


Put the crack down
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:50 am to
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Put the crack down

Seriously, who would beat that? Realistic targets (of course Utah or OKC could).

The Nets if they dealt Bridges? Maybe.

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13478 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:50 am to
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But evidently the Pelicans are in the mix, so they are offering something.
They made a call. There was a lot of discussion about getting Scoot and the reports were that we tried to get him with a package based on draft picks. Making a call and putting forth a significant offer are not the same.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:52 am to
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Would we get Scoot or Sharpe and some draft capital? If not, then it's a bad deal.



I'd want something else, yes. Dame's contract is just too big.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13775 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:53 am to
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Yup, we can throw out Ingram, Dyson, Kira and 2 1sts and there’s not a team out there that would beat it


Guess what if Ingram is included in a trade, no team can beat that to start off unless the Celtics are including Brown. Or Nets Bridges, but then what’s the point of trading for Dame?

If it’s Ingram, it’ll be with Kira and Temple and nothing else. No firsts or Dyson.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4899 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:53 am to
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But evidently the Pelicans are in the mix
Portland CLAIMS these teams are in the mix because they need to drive up offers from the actual teams.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17336 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:53 am to
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Put the crack down

Who could/would beat that?

Portland has made it clear they want an all star level player in return along with picks, which they get, along with 2 young players.

There’s not a team out there that would beat it, Miami doesn’t have the player nor the picks to send, and Brooklyn doesn’t have the player (they wouldn’t trade Bridges for Dame as it wouldn’t make sense).
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:53 am to
I guess people forget about watching basketball and just concentrate on age and contracts. The guy scored 71 last season in a game. But lets just focus on that hes washed, has a huge contract and our stars are better than him lol Getting dame would be huge for this franchise period, even if it costs one of our stars.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42915 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:54 am to
The New Orleans Makeacallicans
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4899 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:56 am to
Why the frick would we want to overly outbid every other team for Dame? xD xD xD
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13775 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:00 am to
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I guess people forget about watching basketball and just concentrate on age and contracts. The guy scored 71 last season in a game. But lets just focus on that hes washed, has a huge contract and our stars are better than him lol Getting dame would be huge for this franchise period, even if it costs one of our stars.


Seems like I’m having dejavu with the same posters on here that kept telling me that I was wrong and the team needed to add Lowery a few years ago. Think where we would be if Griff got his way. Age and contracts are real numbers.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 11:01 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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They made a call. There was a lot of discussion about getting Scoot and the reports were that we tried to get him with a package based on draft picks. Making a call and putting forth a significant offer are not the same.

The amount of people that don't understand this is frustrating.

Teams make calls all the time without making a deal. You do your due diligence and if the offer is too much or you can't get in with what you're comfortable with, that's fine.

But people think every single time your team has a report that they made a call and then your team doesn't make a trade, it's some huge failure that the GM couldn't get the deal done. It's silly.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17336 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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Why the frick would we want to overly outbid every other team for Dame?

That’s not an overbid….
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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I guess people forget about watching basketball and just concentrate on age and contracts.

If you're making a franchise-altering trade, age and contracts matter a great deal.

You want to throw our future away for 1, maybe 1.5 years of a WCF ceiling window? Fine, but that's idiotic.

quote:

Getting dame would be huge for this franchise period,

Not really. We said the same shite about Beal a few years ago and he just got dealt for a literal salary dump (and he's younger than Dame). Be careful what you wish for, especially in the NBA and especially with aging stars.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:03 am to
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That’s not an overbid….

Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:03 am to
You know whats real numbers?? Wins. If Griff got his way, we might be better off. Lowry was a key part of Miamis postseason success. CP3 is a bonafide winner. But its ok we got CJ on a huge contract that cant get us past OKC in the play-in.
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