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re: Official Pelicans Free Agency Thread(Updated with transactions)
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:50 am to quail man
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:50 am to quail man
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well, unless you feel like bending the rules and counting Joel Embiid If He Stays Healthy or my illegitimate Australian son, Ben Simmons (a frighteningly gifted high schooler who looks like Benji Wilson 2.0).
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:51 am to quail man
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Second, Anthony Davis is our only superstar in waiting right now … well, unless you feel like bending the rules and counting Joel Embiid If He Stays Healthy or my illegitimate Australian son, Ben Simmons (a frighteningly gifted high schooler who looks like Benji Wilson 2.0).
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:52 am to quail man
quote:frick bill simmons. he's trying to ingratiate himself to our fan base
slightly off topic, but this is from Simmons' column on Carmelo today
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Second, Anthony Davis is our only superstar in waiting right now … well, unless you feel like bending the rules and counting Joel Embiid If He Stays Healthy or my illegitimate Australian son, Ben Simmons (a frighteningly gifted high schooler who looks like Benji Wilson 2.0).
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:05 am to Colonel Flagg
he's not yet. after this year, he will be.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:10 am to Fearthehat0307
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frick bill simmons. he's trying to ingratiate himself to our fan base
Bill Simmons, GTFO
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:28 am to TheJruth
If you think the national writers are bad about being completely ignorant of smaller teams like the Pels, the local beat guys from another conference are even worse.
Lang Greene covers the Hawks and he normally seems pretty decent, but he's obviously out of his depth talking about a lesser team from another conference. At least he didn't think we kept Brian Roberts.
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Lang Greene @LangGreene about 5 minutes ago
Pelicans summer. Got a big man to put next to Anthony Davis. Added: Omer Asik, Alonzo Gee and Russ Smith. Lost: S. Hopson and Anthony Morrow
Lang Greene covers the Hawks and he normally seems pretty decent, but he's obviously out of his depth talking about a lesser team from another conference. At least he didn't think we kept Brian Roberts.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:37 am to TigerinATL
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Lost: S. Hopson
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:44 pm to quail man
That Simmons column today was incomprehensible.
"Dirk is a top 20 all time player. He won a title with a non star supporting cast. Melo, at his best, had a couple years like Dirk, but he's much more similar to guys like Nique, Dantley, and Pierce. They all weren't good enough to be the best guy on a title team. But I really like Melo. Ergo Melo could have won a title as the best guy on a team."
smgdh
"Dirk is a top 20 all time player. He won a title with a non star supporting cast. Melo, at his best, had a couple years like Dirk, but he's much more similar to guys like Nique, Dantley, and Pierce. They all weren't good enough to be the best guy on a title team. But I really like Melo. Ergo Melo could have won a title as the best guy on a team."
smgdh
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:04 pm to corndeaux
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Eric Pincus ? @EricPincus
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Jrue Holiday didn't hit $500k in incentives last year,lowering his cap number this season to $9.9 million from $10.4 million @BBallInsiders
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:11 pm to corndeaux
quote:Wah?
That Simmons column today was incomprehensible.
"Dirk is a top 20 all time player. He won a title with a non star supporting cast. Melo, at his best, had a couple years like Dirk, but he's much more similar to guys like Nique, Dantley, and Pierce. They all weren't good enough to be the best guy on a title team. But I really like Melo. Ergo Melo could have won a title as the best guy on a team."
smgdh
Plus:
quote:Melo probably had the best year of his career last year. And his second best year, the year before.
Melo, at his best, had a couple years like Dirk,
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:26 pm to eyeran
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Wah?
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That’s why I dislike comparing Carmelo and Dirk. But I keep coming back to these two playoff lines:
2011 Dirk (21 games): 27.7 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 2.5 apg, 49-46-94%, 8.9 FTA, 25.2 PER
2009 Melo (16 games): 27.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.1 apg, 45-36-83%, 9.0 FTA, 24.3 PER
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So could Carmelo morph into 2011 Dirk if you gave him the right situation?
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Just for fun, the best two-year regular-season runs for Bernard, ‘Nique Wilkins, Dirk and Carmelo:
• King (1984-85): 29.1 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.8 apg, 55-07-78%, 23.8 PER, 35.8 mpg, 31.5 usage
• ’Nique (1986-87): 29.7 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg, 47-25-82%, 23.4 PER, 38.3 mpg, 32.6 usage
• Dirk (2006-07): 25.6 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 3.1 apg, 49-41-90%, 27.8 PER, 37.2 mpg, 29.5 usage
• Melo (2013-14): 28.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.9 apg, 45-39-84%, 24.6 PER, 37.9 mpg, 33.9 usage
If Simmons really understands whatever it is he is trying to prove, I'm impressed. I typically enjoy his work. This article just makes no sense the way he presents it.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:35 pm to corndeaux
Oh I like when Bill Simmons talks about the other 29 teams. Just not the Pels. So Bill, keep on keeping on, but GTFO.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:38 pm to corndeaux
Just going quickly through the piece, and considering how he ended it, it seems like it would've actually made sense if he'd just left out the first paragraph you quoted:
quote:Specifically that sentence. He basically spends the rest of the article trying to prove Melo is/was actually good enough to be that guy if circumstances were different.
"Dirk is a top 20 all time player. He won a title with a non star supporting cast. Melo, at his best, had a couple years like Dirk, but he's much more similar to guys like Nique, Dantley, and Pierce. They all weren't good enough to be the best guy on a title team. But I really like Melo. Ergo Melo could have won a title as the best guy on a team."
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:03 pm to eyeran
Maybe its Casspi saving face after getting waived. Maybe he just really didn't want to play here.
quote:If its the latter
David Pick @IAmDPick
"This is a big season for my career, it's important that I play," Omri Casspi said upon arrival in Israel.
David 'Dubi' Pick @IAmDPick
"New Orleans isn't the best situation for me. We'll finalize terms of split," Omri Casspi added.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:06 pm to eyeran
I think they probably said Luke Babbit is close enough to Casspi and already knows the system.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:07 pm to eyeran
And finally some national media love for Dell Demps
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Marc Stein ?@ESPNSteinLine
So many eyebrows raised when New Orleans cut Greg Stiemsma so late in season to sign Melvin Ely. Ely's UNGUARANTEED deal clinched Asik trade
Marc Stein ?@ESPNSteinLine
Some shrewd salary-cap management by Pelicans GM Dell Demps ends up landing Asik next to face of the franchise Anthony Davis & Ryan Anderson
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:50 pm to eyeran
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 14m
ESPN sources say Dirk Nowitzki has taken bigger pay cut than previously thought. Deal finalized today at three years, $25 mil for Mavs lifer
Anticipated deal for Dirk was a structure like Tim Duncan's deal w/Spurs, but he took $5 mil less to help facilitate Chandler Parsons move
Story going online now detailing how Rockets AND Lakers called w/max offers for Nowitzki, but he rebuffed all outside interest to stay w/DAL
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:52 pm to TigerinATL
Im sure Cuban has some ownership in the team waiting for him
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:56 pm to MrPappagiorgio
No doubt. Even if it's never actually been discussed in a "take a paycut and I'll hook you up later" context, I'd be shocked if Dirk's business relationship with Cuban ends when he retires.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:04 pm to TigerinATL
Gotta give credit to dirk
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