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Posted on 7/18/16 at 3:31 pm to NOSHAU
Have you seen him play? He was pretty good as a starter for Phoenix, put up a lot of double doubles and had a game with 20 rebounds iirc. He's an excellent offensive rebounder and rim protector and finishes well above the rim, runs the floor extremely well. Of course he's getting over paid but so is everyone. If you're looking for a big to fill in for 20 min or less a game you could do far worse.
Edit: Ask Demarcus Cousins what he thinks
Edit: Ask Demarcus Cousins what he thinks
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/18/16 at 5:12 pm to REG861
I wanted to get plumlee. Had no idea he would get that much.
Young athletic big that can finish and protect the rim with a high motor.
I mean, he's better than asik by a lot, but I don't think he deserves that much money without proving himself as a starter.
But that is the trend this offseason. Paying guys starter money to start on new teams even though they've never started before, but have shown promise.
Young athletic big that can finish and protect the rim with a high motor.
I mean, he's better than asik by a lot, but I don't think he deserves that much money without proving himself as a starter.
But that is the trend this offseason. Paying guys starter money to start on new teams even though they've never started before, but have shown promise.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 9:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
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@WojVerticalNBA: Sources on @TheVertical: Oklahoma City has rescinded qualifying offer on Dion Waiters, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.
Interesting, I guess they'd only do this to get his cap hold off of the books, which means they have something in the works.
ETA: they have a decent amount of cap space now, I wonder if they'll offer Maurice Harkless. They do need a SF.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:04 am to Epic Cajun
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I mean, he's better than asik by a lot, but I don't think he deserves that much money without proving himself as a starter.
But that is the trend this offseason. Paying guys starter money to start on new teams even though they've never started before, but have shown promise.
Oh, Teddy. $13M is not starter money in a post TV contract world.
% of cap for Asik last year- 15.7
% of cap for Plumlee this year- 13.8
% of cap for Asik this year- 11.7
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@WojVerticalNBA: Sources on @TheVertical: Oklahoma City has rescinded qualifying offer on Dion Waiters, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.
Interesting, I guess they'd only do this to get his cap hold off of the books, which means they have something in the works.
My guess- Westbrook extension
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:09 am to corndeaux
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My guess- Westbrook extension
You think he'd do that? What does he have to gain from it? A bit more money this year? Why tie yourself to a sinking ship?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:14 am to Epic Cajun
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Why tie yourself to a sinking ship?
Because he thinks he can lift it up by himself. He almost willed that team to the playoffs by himself 2 years ago. Where else is he going to go and both be in a better situation and be The Man? The Lakers are too young. Are the Celtics really any better than the Thunder? Considering how much of their talent is poor shooting guards/wings, I don't think so.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:27 am to TigerinATL
That part plus $$.
He can sign a 4 year max right now and get roughly the same $$ as if he waited til next summer. With a new CBA on the horizon, things could change. Might make sense to lock in while you can
Also an outside shot at one final payday since he would be a FA a year earlier if he extended vs signed next summer
He can sign a 4 year max right now and get roughly the same $$ as if he waited til next summer. With a new CBA on the horizon, things could change. Might make sense to lock in while you can
Also an outside shot at one final payday since he would be a FA a year earlier if he extended vs signed next summer
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:01 am to corndeaux
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Oh, Teddy. $13M is not starter money in a post TV contract world.
% of cap for Asik last year- 15.7
% of cap for Plumlee this year- 13.8
% of cap for Asik this year- 11.7
What was the point of all of that, and what does it have to do with Plumlee starting at center for his new team?
Are you trying to say that $13M/yr is backup money?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:09 am to TeddyPadillac
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Are you trying to say that $13M/yr is backup money?
It's either average starter or good bench player money, in this new landscape.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:09 am to TeddyPadillac
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Are you trying to say that $13M/yr is backup money?
$13 million is 12.7% of a $102 million cap
12.7% of $58 million = $7.4 million. I'd say that's role playing starter money, the #4 or #5 guy in the starting lineup.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:13 am to TigerinATL
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Are the Celtics really any better than the Thunder?
I think they are much better, and they are also in the East. If he went to Boston they would be the number 2 team in the East, he doesn't really have a chance at being a 2 seed in the West.
Also, the Lakers are young but they have more going for them than the Thunder, right now.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:18 am to TigerinATL
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Are the Celtics really any better than the Thunder
yes
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:21 am to Epic Cajun
I was just trying to compare rosters, because I don't think Boston has enough shooting to give him space, but OKC doesn't have much shooting either, especially if they waive Waiters. I guess the Celtics can trade Thomas for more shooting if he isn't part of the trade package to get Westbrook.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:24 am to TigerinATL
so starter money.
thank you.
Why this is an argument, i don't know.
thank you.
Why this is an argument, i don't know.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:26 am to TigerinATL
quote:Why would they trade Thomas? Isn't he a big part of their shooting?
I was just trying to compare rosters, because I don't think Boston has enough shooting to give him space, but OKC doesn't have much shooting either, especially if they waive Waiters. I guess the Celtics can trade Thomas for more shooting if he isn't part of the trade package to get Westbrook.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:47 am to corndeaux
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With a new CBA on the horizon, things could change. Might make sense to lock in while you can
I think you may see an increase to the max percentages in the new CBA in an attempt to prevent superteams, so it might behoove him not to be locked in too long.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:52 am to NOFOX
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I think you may see an increase to the max percentages in the new CBA in an attempt to prevent superteams, so it might behoove him not to be locked in too long.
I would be all for them removing max salaries, but keeping the salary cap. It would force players to take less if they want to form "super" teams.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:53 am to NOSHAU
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Why would they trade Thomas?
Because he's a ball dominator and so is Westbrook.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:55 am to TeddyPadillac
Like ATL pointed out, it's a $7-$8M contract under the old cap. That's not "starter" money unless you are going with the "he starts, so he's making starter money" definition of the term.
Which it seems like you are. Carry on. Nothing left to say here
Which it seems like you are. Carry on. Nothing left to say here
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