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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:05 am to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:05 am to NawlinsTiger9
The downside with Lin is what NOFOX has been concerned with, he's basically new Asik with that player option next year. A guy you traded a 1st for that helped you make the playoffs so you can't just let him walk. Maybe we won't care about paying him $20 million per if we're a top 4 seed, but the Pels will probably be forced to pay him unless it's a disaster.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:07 am to TigerinATL
The price of success is usually a hard one to determine
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:20 am to TigerinATL
quote:I hate giving up 1st rounders for guys on the last year of their deals (especially one that is not a very high level player).
The downside with Lin is what NOFOX has been concerned with, he's basically new Asik with that player option next year. A guy you traded a 1st for that helped you make the playoffs so you can't just let him walk. Maybe we won't care about paying him $20 million per if we're a top 4 seed, but the Pels will probably be forced to pay him unless it's a disaster.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:26 am to TigerinATL
quote:
The downside with Lin is what NOFOX has been concerned with, he's basically new Asik with that player option next year. A guy you traded a 1st for that helped you make the playoffs so you can't just let him walk. Maybe we won't care about paying him $20 million per if we're a top 4 seed, but the Pels will probably be forced to pay him unless it's a disaster.
I feel like the market has gone down considerably this offseason. Even in the best case scenario, I don't see him getting a deal better than George Hill's 3 for 57 with a partial guarantee on the last year.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:43 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
Early win/loss over under has the Pels 6th, behind the consensus top 4 and Minny.
Do you have a link to this? I'd like to check it out
Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:08 pm to SoFresh
Just google it man. It is just Vegas win totals.
I think the pels are the 6th seed with 43.5 wins or something.
Denver and Memphis just below at 42.
Edit: Actually lines have already moved some. Now we are tied for 7-9
Golden State Warriors 67 ½
Houston Rockets 56 ½
San Antonio Spurs 55 ½
Oklahoma City Thunder 48 ½
Minnesota Timberwolves 46 ½
Denver Nuggets 42 ½
New Orleans Pelicans 41 ½
Memphis Grizzlies 41 ½
Los Angeles Clippers 41 ½
Portland Trail Blazers 40 ½
Dallas Mavericks 34 ½
Los Angeles Lakers 32 ½
Sacramento Kings 31 ½
Phoenix Suns 25 ½
Utah Jazz OFF
I think the pels are the 6th seed with 43.5 wins or something.
Denver and Memphis just below at 42.
Edit: Actually lines have already moved some. Now we are tied for 7-9
Golden State Warriors 67 ½
Houston Rockets 56 ½
San Antonio Spurs 55 ½
Oklahoma City Thunder 48 ½
Minnesota Timberwolves 46 ½
Denver Nuggets 42 ½
New Orleans Pelicans 41 ½
Memphis Grizzlies 41 ½
Los Angeles Clippers 41 ½
Portland Trail Blazers 40 ½
Dallas Mavericks 34 ½
Los Angeles Lakers 32 ½
Sacramento Kings 31 ½
Phoenix Suns 25 ½
Utah Jazz OFF
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:20 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
I feel like the market has gone down considerably this offseason. Even in the best case scenario, I don't see him getting a deal better than George Hill's 3 for 57 with a partial guarantee on the last year.
And Asik wasn't getting anywhere near the offers we gave him, but what do you do when the agent is holding all of the cards? We would have invested a 1st in him for 1 year and wouldn't have anyone waiting in the wings to feign letting him walk unless Frank Jackson is a revelation. It is the opposite of what the Spurs do. We will only have the MLE and more future 1sts avilable to find a replacement while simulataneously convincing Boogie to re-sign.
I just don't want to see Dell put at such a disadvantage considering his reputation for negotiation already. That is why I would greatly prefer to trade for someone with 2 years left. Then Dell or whomever can independently evaluate/negotiate without worrying about Boogie.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:16 pm to SoFresh
quote:
Sources: The Mavs are in the process of finalizing a two-year, $10 million deal with Dirk Nowitzki. The second season will be a team option.
Dirk taking $5M this year so the Mavs can re-sign Noel and no one else is interesting.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:17 pm to NOFOX
Bacon... the guy we drafted for the Hornets on draft night after the agreed upon trade... just signed a 3 year deal with 2 years guaranteed
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:22 pm to rt3
quote:
Edmond Sumner has signed a two-way contract with the Pacers.
Player the Pels worked out was drafted late in the 2nd.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:30 pm to SoFresh
Here's another projection that has us 6th in the west.
quote:
Nate? @bbstats 24 minutes ago
(no rookies included) BPM-derived NetRating projections with brand-new usage adjustments:
if anyone has great rookie projections HMU
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:31 pm to NOFOX
quote:No one is going to convince me that Cuban is not compensating him somehow outside of the salary cap. That is an unbelievable pay cut for someone like Dirk.
Dirk taking $5M this year so the Mavs can re-sign Noel and no one else is interesting.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:33 pm to NOFOX
The molasses pace of this offseason is pretty excruciating.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:40 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.
ETA:
quote:
Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
Deal includes a player option on second year, sources tell ESPN.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:41 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Adrian Wojnarowski? @wojespn 1m1 minute ago
Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.
quote:
Mark Murphy? @Murf56 36 minutes ago
Source says Hayward headed to Boston - press conference expected in next 2 days. Says Crowder S&T with Utah close, other details unclear.
And just like that 2 teams are back in the race.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:44 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Gonna be ticked if Utah gets Crowder for nothing.
And just like that 2 teams are back in the race.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:46 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Gonna be ticked if Utah gets Crowder for nothing.
Supposedly Danny is trying to get picks and Hood. I cannot believe that he would give up Crowder for nothing to Utah as opposed to trading Crowder elsewhere for assets.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:47 pm to TigerinATL
Gobert
Rubio
Crowder
Joe Johnson
Favors
Hood
Ingles
Diaw
Burks
Mack
Lyles
That's good for 40ish wins probably
Rubio
Crowder
Joe Johnson
Favors
Hood
Ingles
Diaw
Burks
Mack
Lyles
That's good for 40ish wins probably
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:51 pm to NOFOX
quote:Wow, if he gets picks and Hood, he is doing well.
Supposedly Danny is trying to get picks and Hood. I cannot believe that he would give up Crowder for nothing to Utah as opposed to trading Crowder elsewhere for assets.
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