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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:18 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:18 pm to Epic Cajun
Thinking about it...I'm a little weary of trying to acquire Miles via sign-and-trade as it would hard cap us this season and we need all the flexibility we can get.
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:22 pm to mr brightside
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How would we get Bledsoe?
You'd have to trade multiple future 1sts, it's what Phoenix got for Dragic.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:28 pm to BallHawk
I doubt the Pels are going over the apron anyway.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:32 pm to Epic Cajun
Well, if you have a sign-and-trade it doesn't matter because that's an automatic hard-cap
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:34 pm to Epic Cajun
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I doubt the Pels are going over the apron anyway.
Yeah, but we're a little under $9 million under the tax with the current roster minus Cunningham. Phoenix tried to dump Dudley on us during the draft, what if that's a requirement of trading for Bledsoe? We can legally take back about $7.5 million more than we send out. So $9 - $7.5 is only $1.5 away from the tax. Sign someone to the MLE and you're over the tax and you haven't even brought back Cunningham.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:35 pm to BallHawk
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Well, if you have a sign-and-trade it doesn't matter because that's an automatic hard-cap
You're hard capped at the apron, not where you end up after the trade.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:36 pm to Epic Cajun
True. I read what you wrote wrong. Oops
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:40 pm to TigerinATL
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Yeah, but we're a little under $9 million under the tax with the current roster minus Cunningham. Phoenix tried to dump Dudley on us during the draft, what if that's a requirement of trading for Bledsoe? We can legally take back about $7.5 million more than we send out. So $9 - $7.5 is only $1.5 away from the tax. Sign someone to the MLE and you're over the tax and you haven't even brought back Cunningham.
If that happens, then the Pels will probably give up assets to get off of salary (dumping Ajinca, Qpon, any dead money they receive in the trade, and stretching Asik if needed).
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:57 pm to Epic Cajun
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Lots of interest for Kelly Olynyk, I'm told, with Nets, Pacers, Kings, Jazz coming on strong. Pacers are trying to shed salary to land him
-Amick
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:02 pm to TigerinATL
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Even if Asik was untradeable, why wouldn't they just stretch him rather than go into the tax this year?
$11MM contract in 2018 only gtd for $3MM.
could be very valuable and maybe worth a little wallet pain in 2017
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:13 pm to Epic Cajun
Looking for an update. Let me know if this is all correct.
We missed the playoffs last year by two spots. One team ahead of us (Utah) got worse. Clippers got a little worse, but not that much worse. Two teams (Minn. & Denver) got better. Im not sure if the Grizz and Kings are better or not. And the powerhouses (GSW, Thunder & Rockets) got more powerful.
We haven't signed or traded for anyone.
We missed the playoffs last year by two spots. One team ahead of us (Utah) got worse. Clippers got a little worse, but not that much worse. Two teams (Minn. & Denver) got better. Im not sure if the Grizz and Kings are better or not. And the powerhouses (GSW, Thunder & Rockets) got more powerful.
We haven't signed or traded for anyone.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:13 pm to cgrand
They won't go into the tax this year. They will stretch Asik or dump other contracts to avoid the tax. I think they will try to dump Anjica and wait to stretch/dump Asik until next season.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:17 pm to Suntiger
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Clippers got a little worse, but not that much worse.
Clippers lost their all star PG and their best shooter and intend to increase the role of one Austin Rivers while relying on an oft injured PF, an oft injured PF/SF and a C with 0 range, but they just got a little worse?
Maybe I am in the minority, but I think the Clippers are going to be bad.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:18 pm to NOFOX
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NOFOX
I think you missed his point
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:22 pm to Suntiger
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Clippers got a little worse, but not that much worse.
The Clippers got much worse. Utah won't be in the playoffs. The Grizz will be worse just due to age. The Kings got better, but that is irrelevant.
The Pels signed Holiday, which is a big deal
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:22 pm to Epic Cajun
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The Grizz will be worse just due to age.
And if they start out slow they could blow it all up.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:24 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:I think his point was that we did not add talent. Holiday was here last year. However, an offseason of Boogie with the team should be better than last year.
The Pels signed Holiday, which is a big deal
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:25 pm to Jizzamo311
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I think you missed his point
I don't think so. I think his point was that the Pels are in a worse position in regards to making the playoffs, than they were last year. But, that really isn't true because the Clippers were a lock last year and aren't a lock this year. The Grizzlies will be worse just due to age. Utah will have dropped out of the playoffs.
The Pels are in the playoff mix anywhere from 4-8, and they aren't done dealing this offseason.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:26 pm to Suntiger
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We haven't signed or traded for anyone.
Demarcus Cousins
Jrue
Cousins played 17 games here, Jrue missed 15 w/ his wife stuff. We were 7 games behind the 8th seed POR
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