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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:03 pm to Crewz
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:03 pm to Crewz
quote:
Is that what you are talking about???
Well, it's not what I'm talking about. It's what I'm asking about. It was an honest question. I wasn't accusing you of anything.
The Diallo thing seems pretty legit, so I believe you.
The Jrue thing isn't very difficult to surmise. It's probably just above his market value. Again, if they went above that number, you could have just said "Dell got bullied!"
Either way, I hope you are right and the Pels are working actively to make a big move.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:06 pm to Dayman
I don't care whether you guys believe or not. Like I said, from my perspective I am just being a nice guy by sharing stuff that I am fortunate to know.
My question for the non believers is simply: What do you think I gain, if let's say I was just making it all up? I hate dealing with fans and want less attention, not more as evidenced by me deleting an account with 5000+ followers and growing every day, writing less, and refusing radio interviews. So, with that in mind, what would my intention be from the non believers perspective?
My question for the non believers is simply: What do you think I gain, if let's say I was just making it all up? I hate dealing with fans and want less attention, not more as evidenced by me deleting an account with 5000+ followers and growing every day, writing less, and refusing radio interviews. So, with that in mind, what would my intention be from the non believers perspective?
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:07 pm to TheJruth
Maybe you just don't understand the position everybody is in and the multiple masters they have to serve.
You don't think we are all dying to just give you guys every detail?
Seriously, think about it for a second and look at it from someone else's perspective without assuming the worst.
You don't think we are all dying to just give you guys every detail?
Seriously, think about it for a second and look at it from someone else's perspective without assuming the worst.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:10 pm to TheJruth
Also, I have a few friends in the media who pass stuff along to me from time to time. I heard Pels we're interested in J. Lin about a week before Woj reported it on The Vertical I have independently heard what Mac has reported on a few occasions. Take it for what it's worth. A rumor, something from along the grapevine, which may be distorted, but usually has an element of truth.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:10 pm to Crewz
Who cares if he has "legit" info or not??
The fact is we all know he has some sources and has hit before.
So I'm appreciative for whatever info you choose to bring whether it comes to fruition or not. Either way it keeps interest in the Pels.
But I still think you're an AHole! ??
The fact is we all know he has some sources and has hit before.
So I'm appreciative for whatever info you choose to bring whether it comes to fruition or not. Either way it keeps interest in the Pels.
But I still think you're an AHole! ??
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:14 pm to Jizzamo311
I think he has legit sources. The truth is in this league the large majority of deals in this league fall through. So say what you want about the guy, but with him being so generous with his info, of course he's going to look wrong more than right. If someone like Woj tweeted everything he was told how bad would he look? Difference is, McNamara is more forthcoming, which I personally appreciate.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:15 pm to Crewz
Dude everyone tries to appreciate what you do but your omniscient tone is deflating as frick to the positive hype we (try to) create on this board. I want basketball to stay in NOLA for a long time and to do that I want more people to invest in the team. Be 20% more grateful that some fans actually give a shite about what you say.
For what it's worth I'm glad you give us some details son.
For what it's worth I'm glad you give us some details son.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:19 pm to Crewz
You've done all of this to yourself. It's your antics. About every other month you come on here and call everyone an idiot because they question your validity. Which, if you pay attention, happens to about 95% of anyone who tweets any sort of rumor.. "That's (insert sports journalist) he doesn't know anything don't believe that". It's not just you, but you come here to wage war like it is.
And then after all of this you come on here and rant about how you're doing this because you want LESS attention? come on dude. If you're truly a "nice guy" who wants to "share his info" while getting "less attention" then just drop your info and roll out and wait on it to come true. Don't stick around and bicker like a petulant child when someone disagrees or doesn't believe you. When you do that kinda stuff people will be lining up to ridicule you when you aren't right.
And then after all of this you come on here and rant about how you're doing this because you want LESS attention? come on dude. If you're truly a "nice guy" who wants to "share his info" while getting "less attention" then just drop your info and roll out and wait on it to come true. Don't stick around and bicker like a petulant child when someone disagrees or doesn't believe you. When you do that kinda stuff people will be lining up to ridicule you when you aren't right.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:30 pm to Not Cooper
I'd venture there's only so much that can be leaked if he wants to keep his inside info. That's typically how these things work. It's cryptic intentionally. He's got to protect the people who tell him things.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:32 pm to Crewz
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What do you guys think I get out of it? I want less followers, not more. I don't want any praise or thank you
I have info that none of you guys have access to and sometimes I feel nice enough to share some of it. If you don't like how much I share or the details of it, don't listen. But I am not trying to get some kind of props. Even when I give you guys the good info and it comes true, you don't give me props anyway. So, don't think that is my intention
I like your analysis(I often find myself referring back to your offseason pathway pieces regularly) but what you are putting on offer IMO is indistinguishable from reasonable but vague speculation. That is why I am highly suspicious. Vague assertions that any rational and well read fan could easily do if they were so inclined. And in a suspicious way that every post has a convenient out of culpability and responsibility if the story doesn't turn out as inferred. Vague enough to spin it in any number of ways.
The way as I understand it with how stuff like this works, in journalism, in sports(as someone with family and relatives in the profession), is that insiders tend to create a reputation from which to work from, so when you get to the vague stuff like you posted, you have more credibility. And that reputation has a compounding effect. If you seem responsible and credible, and as your spotlight grows, more insiders seek you out. You maintain that credibility by getting others to corroborate your info and speak to the sources(or at least verify their existence and some of what they are saying). Like an editor or senior staffer. To which they will stand behind the story, even run it under their outlets banner. And also to hedge against and occasionally take responsibility for false info that gets through the filter. For fans you want concrete details that turn out exact. Anyone could reasonably infer Jrue would push above 25 million based on the various info out there. Even just based on prior history of contracts unrelated. But for instance where are the moments you break Demps taking a meeting with a FA? And what those details are? Like Nick Young? That later gets corroborated by someone like Aldridge or another insider? Where facts of details only an insider would know end up aligning perfectly with what ends up becoming verified public knowledge?
As an audience member I am looking for things I can hold up tangibly and see a long line of solid and credible info that originates from this author and subsequently turns out to be accurate consistently.
I don't mean to be rude, but I have not seen that with you so far, and the process with how this has happened is a bit suspect.....Though if it is all a bit of a troll, kudos. You definitely have communities buzzing.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:50 pm to TheJruth
quote:The interest in Lin makes sense as we tried hard to sign him last offseason.
Also, I have a few friends in the media who pass stuff along to me from time to time. I heard Pels we're interested in J. Lin about a week before Woj reported it on The Vertical I have independently heard what Mac has reported on a few occasions. Take it for what it's worth. A rumor, something from along the grapevine, which may be distorted, but usually has an element of truth.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:59 pm to TigerinATL
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MM said the Holiday was signing for $27 per. He signed for $25 but there's $5 million per year extra in incentives. I'm interested to see what the incentives in Holiday's contract are because incentives are usually hard to reach and $5 million is a lot for that. I'm wondering if the $27 figure isn't right and there's $1-2 million worth of games played/injury incentives that Holiday will easily reach.
I don't think MM was wrong. I'd bet a day before their meeting Dell was prepared to offer more in the "base" of the contract. From what I saw through some screen-shoted twitter DM's, the Pelicans were doing research on how Jrue's contract would be perceived among the fan base and around the league. (Which is why it started to leak that Jrue was getting a max contract)
My guess is they were shocked to find out that most fans/media didn't want them to do whatever it took to land a top 10 Free Agent this summer. Have to remember that in almost every other year of this franchises history, landing a Jrue Holiday caliber player in FA would have been a huge win.
What I surmise is that Pelicans PR/Dell figured out a way for Jrue to get his money, without the Pelicans having to take as massive of a PR hit. Hence, the incentives.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:00 pm to TheJruth
quote:
Also, I have a few friends in the media who pass stuff along to me from time to time. I heard Pels we're interested in J. Lin about a week before Woj reported it on The Vertical I have independently heard what Mac has reported on a few occasions. Take it for what it's worth. A rumor, something from along the grapevine, which may be distorted, but usually has an element of truth.
Here is some honest to goodness advice to cut through people's (rightful) cynicism with message-board insiders, since every forum has a half dozen of them it seems, that more often then not conveniently turn out to be bunk. And a half dozen more that will latch onto those first insiders to get in on the action.
Whenever your next inside bit of info occurs, find and then keep on hand the post(s) or whatever where you brought up the details of Jeremy Lin and the Pels having strong interest. Screenshot, link it, whatever. Since it will undeniably be questioned. Along with the first time a person outside of yourself corroborated it. It helps show you aren't just blowing smoke. At least it would for me and I bet many others. Get more then one or two right like that and you are probably going to get a respectful following and most cynicism washed away.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:01 pm to Crewz
You dont like the pels, you dont want attention, you dont want followers, you "quit" and deleted your main account awhile back. Why dont you just stfu and go away?
You can't because it's the one thing in life you know actually something about and the constant praise and attentions boosts your low self esteem and worth
And im not trying to hurt your feelings but it's very transparent and I wish you would seek help from a professional
You can't because it's the one thing in life you know actually something about and the constant praise and attentions boosts your low self esteem and worth
And im not trying to hurt your feelings but it's very transparent and I wish you would seek help from a professional
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:05 pm to GynoSandberg
Damn I don't get why ppl get so upset with MM saying stuff if you don't believe him then ignore everything that he says. I think most ppl on the board enjoy the conversation he usually starts and not every rumor is going to come true.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:13 pm to BSB1988
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I think most ppl on the board enjoy the conversation he usually starts
Of course.
I believe the rubs comes from the condescending manner and being IDGAF guy who actually has a lot of fricks to give
what kind of person constantly tweets about the Pels 24/7 and posts on message boards about the Pels but doesnt want attention, questions and followers pertaining to the team he claims he doesnt care about
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:15 pm to BSB1988
Agreed. True or not, it's keeping me interested and refreshing my phone constantly. I appreciate topics that keep this board alive in the offseason.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:19 pm to Crewz
Crewz, honestly idk how differently I'd act with fans. I know we can be idiots sometimes but damn twitter is a different level of stupidity.
you have access that we don't have and you are entitled to report it however you want. whatever your goal is you created a lot of buzz and excitement. your contribution was appreciated
you have access that we don't have and you are entitled to report it however you want. whatever your goal is you created a lot of buzz and excitement. your contribution was appreciated
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:20 pm to BSB1988
Some of y'all just need to chill.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:38 pm to Crewz
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What do you guys think I get out of it? I want less followers, not more. I don't want any praise or thank you
bullshite. Just be honest, brah...
When are you gonna periscope your bench press? GTFOH, lol.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 6:45 pm
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