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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:38 pm to
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The problem with this is a bad market usually causes teams to hold onto players rather than sell low. Unless Phoenix is determined to move Bledsoe now rather than later, you'll need to give them at least 2 1sts IMO. You might be able to substitute Diallo or Frank Jackson for a 1st if they like either or a 3rd team does, but I just don't see them giving up Bledsoe for just a 1st. Rubio went for Just a 1st and Bledsoe is arguably a tier above Rubio.



when on the court bledsoe > rubio

but bledsoe makes gordon look healthy
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:43 pm to
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bledsoe makes gordon look healthy


Like clock work every other season he's missed half the season, and this year is the other (injured) season. So there is certainly some concern there. But that's not how Phoenix will view him. If the point is to make them trade Bledsoe now rather than try and wait out a bad market, I think you have to give up 2 1sts or equivalent assets to make it happen.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:51 pm to
Solid point. I think the counter argument is that he makes 14 mil per for the next 3 seasons, so risk is still relatively low vs the ceiling. Worst happens, we just go back to starting Jrue. Also, he will be asked to do a lot less, which should help his injuries.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:53 pm to
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Solid point. I think the counter argument is that he makes 14 mil per for the next 3 seasons, so risk is still relatively low vs the ceiling. Worst happens, we just go back to starting Jrue. Also, he will be asked to do a lot less, which should help his injuries.



He only has 2 years left.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:54 pm to
I've been on the Bledsoe bandwagon for a few months now. Pairing him with Jrue seemed like the most realistic path to the best possible team.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:06 pm to
Can Bledsoe and Jrue play together? And who could we possibly move to fit him under the cap?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:09 pm to
Ajinca, Qpon and Toupane should be enough salary. Bledsoe would be the PG and you shift Jrue to SG.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30369 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:12 pm to
I think Jrue is just as good at the 2 as he is at the 1. Bledsoe is a much better individual scorer than Jrue, which is what we need in the 4th quarter. Can't have AD and Cousins bring the ball up in the final 2 minutes of every game.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:23 pm to
Thanks. You've got me all in on Bledsoe now
Posted by droman225
HTown by way of BR
Member since Aug 2011
13477 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:25 pm to
Woj just said on ESPN that the suns will take on bad contracts packaged with picks
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:25 pm to
Bledsoe on this team we'd be flappin sons
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84335 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Woj just said on ESPN that the suns will take on bad contracts packaged with picks


Asik, Diallo and 2018 first perhaps?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130340 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:30 pm to
I really don't want to give up Diallo.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147184 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:31 pm to
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Woj just said on ESPN that the suns will take on bad contracts packaged with picks

Dell should be blowing up PHX GM Ryan McDonough's phone like a father whose teenaged daughter isn't home before 11 PM
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84335 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:31 pm to
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I really don't want to give up Diallo.



Same.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:34 pm to
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Thanks. You've got me all in on Bledsoe now


He's a decent defender, has averaged over 20ppg the last 2 years and gets to the line better than Tyreke did. Add him to AD/DC and the team will be in the penalty every quarter. You also have some interesting staggering options. Have Holiday/AD run a defensive focused Small Ball unit like last season when Cousins went out. Then when Cousins/Bledsoe come back in try to run a high powered offensive attack against bench defenders.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 6:36 pm
Posted by j520
Member since Jan 2015
264 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:37 pm to
Bill Ingram @TheRocketGuy
now

Source: @Darren Collison getting some love from @Orlando Magic, @New Orleans Pelicans, @Sacramento Kings and@Denver Nuggets - would take less from contender

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30369 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:38 pm to
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I really don't want to give up Diallo.


Give up on what? A career backup at best. Give me a break, what the he'll do yuou expect him to become? They could have Diallo and Jackson for all I care.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130340 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:38 pm to
Is Collison a full MLE guy?

It's either MLE or S&T
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130340 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:39 pm to
Got any lottery numbers?
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