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Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:51 am to
Posted by saints5021
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:51 am to
Kawhi and AD together for 4 years could hurt our draft haul...I am really hoping they get Jimmy Butler or Kemba...not worried about a core with one of those guys.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:56 am to
I’m also hearing Kyrie to LA, despite yesterday’s story being Kyrie and KD to Brooklyn.


Kyrie’s older than AD and a few cans short of a six pack, so I would be fine with him there.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130305 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:57 am to
Kyrie of the big named FA not named Butler is who I hope goes to LAL.

Dude is often injured and he's nuts, and super high usage.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:05 am to
Rally concerned that Lakers about the make another huge move. I would not think they cleared the contracts just to add 2-3 good role players. They have a good idea that they are about to add another max player. Hoping Kwahi does not pull a KD and go there to form a Big 3.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:07 am to
Wherever Kawhi goes, he is going to do a 1+1 so he can get a max at the 10 year veteran scale in a few years.


I wouldn’t worry directly about him this year because it doesn’t effect our picks.

I would get far more nervous if he liked his time there and wanted to stay in 2 years as LeBron’s about to come off the books.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Wherever Kawhi goes, he is going to do a 1+1 so he can get a max at the 10 year veteran scale in a few years.


I wouldn’t worry directly about him this year because it doesn’t effect our picks.

I would get far more nervous if he liked his time there and wanted to stay in 2 years as LeBron’s about to come off the books.


If he goes to LA on a 1+1 it is much more likely that he stays.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:35 am to
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I’m being told that a #Celtics-Capela trade is confirmed
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:36 am to
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I’m being told that a #Celtics-Capela trade is confirmed



I didn't even know there was a rumor let alone "confirmed".
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:36 am to
That is the trade I can see happening.

I’m thinking they will have to attach whatever Ainge gave up in order to move Gordon and Tucker if they aren’t taking back salary.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:39 am to
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That is the trade I can see happening.

I’m thinking they will have to attach whatever Ainge gave up in order to move Gordon and Tucker if they aren’t taking back salary.


The rumor was that they were looking for a 1st to attach to at least Gordon to send to Philly for Butler.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:47 am to
Still depends on how much salary they need to move to make it happen.

Capela is about $14-16m depending on how you calculate his bonuses. Gordon is making $14m.

To take in Butler, whose contract is probably $35m, you need to send out about $32m. Which means Tucker has to go because he is the only other salary of consequence.

This is because Houston, as of this second, is above the cap at $119m before any move of Capela or Gordon.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:50 am to
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The rumor was that they were looking for a 1st to attach to at least Gordon to send to Philly for Butler.

yes, PHI has to get something good or they will just let him walk if he wont re-sign with them. they do not want salary coming back in any butler transaction, as this will be the last time they have cap space for a long time

for example, they could S/T butler to HOU, getting a 1st back, then use their cap space to replace him (bojan?), then go over the cap to re-sign tobias. looking ahead they'd have another asset (opr a player on rookie deal), and they can go further over the cap to re-sign simmons
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:51 am to
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Still depends on how much salary they need to move to make it happen.

butler counts 20MM going out but 32MM coming in. so HOU has to send out 30MM or so (gordon & capela)
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:56 am to
to me the only way:

HOU trades capela to BOS for a 1st (MEM?)
PHI signs butler using bird rights.
PHI trades butler to HOU, 1st goes to PHI, gordon goes to team 3, team 3 sends a fake pick to PHI
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56579 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:57 am to
Rip those future laker picks and them having any value. At least we got Langdon and his ability to find good talent in those spots
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:22 am to
I'm seeing absolutely NOTHING about this

If Boston is signing Kemba, they cant get Capela unless they are sending alot of salary out IE Smart

I dont see them sending Smart for Capela
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:23 am to
A lot can happen in a few years.

AD’s contract is expiring.

LeBron is aging.

The Lake Show could miss out on stars and get role players, or could sign a star who either implodes or who doesn’t like being the second or third banana behind an aging LeBron.


Even if they win in the short term, they still have Jeannie Buss as owner and Rob Pelinka as GM/POBO, both of whom are idiots.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7500 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:58 am to
Lakers wind up with Kyrie. 3 injury prone Superstars and no depth at any other position. They are guaranteed to miss 25-30 games combined.

I'd take my chances on the Pelicans getting the better end in the long run. That first pick might not be anything special though.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:00 pm to
The first pick we get will be in the “double draft”, so whatever we get is probably better than a normal late 20s pick.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:04 pm to
Windhorst saying Sixers and Kings are going to surprise bidders for Horford.

A lot of smoke around Horford going to Philly today.
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