re: New Orleans Pelicans are willing to part ways with Brandon Ingram in hopes of getting Dame

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I think the truth falls somewhere in the middle of the scenario. I don't think Portland trades him to a team like the Lakers because they legitimately have zero assets of value, but at the same time, I don't think they would trade him to Cleveland just because they came up with the "best" package. The likely scenario would be that they would field offers, get input from Dame as to where he would like to play of the (legitimate) offers they get, then try to use the leverage of other offers to attempt to get more out of his desired choice

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This

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Zion? You seriously think we're gonna trade Zion? Even put that aside, you have a problem with trading a top 25 player for a top 10 player? Wow.

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Listing untouchables is not the same thing as thinking we’re going to trade him. But aside from that no I don’t trade a top 15 player at 20 for a top 10 player at 31. Wow.

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There is no way in frick Griff will trade Jax and/or naw with BI for Dame. He should be shot dead in the streets if he did that. Hell even adding one of them to the trade would piss me off.

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You’re both overvaluing Hayes and NAW and undervaluing Dame. You wouldn’t trade a top 30 player and top 100 player for a top 10 player? Wow.

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You're just ignoring what I said completely

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Not at all. I disagree with your approach to team building.

Everyone gets excited when a high level player becomes available. I’d rather take the Memphis approach of depth-who despite an injury to their second best player for most of the season got in as young team.

This team has an excellent chance to grow up together much like their division rival and be a small market powerhouse like the Jazz and Grizzlies.

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He can effectively force himself to a team (regardless of whether they have the best assets) because teams with better assets (like the Pels) would not give them all up without him wanting to go there.

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He has 4 years left. You know you'll get at a minimum 3 years of him, and he's not going to not play. THat's a big difference between trading for a year and a half of Harden or AD.
He can not want to go somewhere all he wants. He's under contract for at least 3 more years, and he has no trade clause, so it doesn't matter what he wants. If he want's to forfeit $40M/yr b/c he doesn't want to play here, then be my guest.

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You’re both overvaluing Hayes and NAW and undervaluing Dame. You wouldn’t trade a top 30 player and top 100 player for a top 10 player? Wow.

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You're forgetting this little thing about BI being young, in which case yea trading a top 30 player about to hit his prime for a top 10 player with about 3 years left bridges that gap immensely.

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But they don't have any picks this year to trade! And their cap space is all going to be used to re-sign Powell. So, they are really restricted in the moves that they could make.

I don't think that Dame survives the season in Portland. We'll see. I think everything has to go right for them to keep him.

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If Philly traded Simmons, CJ & Picks /filer is one of the best deals they can take.

Solves problems for both teams.

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You're forgetting this little thing about BI being young, in which case yea trading a top 30 player about to hit his prime for a top 10 player with about 3 years left bridges that gap immensely.

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I’m not forgetting his youth(he’ll be 24 and in Year 6) at all. I’m also remembering his best coach might have been Luke Walton.

I’m also seeing young players of far lesser stature thrive in the playoffs this year.
I see a division rival look damned near complete in team building with a nucleus under 25.

I see the franchise player talking about working out with Ingram in the summer.

And I see an impatient fanbase. Which I’m sympathetic to, but I won’t pull the trigger because I don’t believe the Zion is unhappy here reports.

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I'd actually prefer Mitchell to Lillard

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Due to age, I agree. I'd also prefer him over SGA.

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"At this point" means that he wants to see the team try to improve via trade

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i think it's more what Bronc and Shel are arguing about. Dame probably floated some landing destinations and then realized they have no way to get him

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But they don't have any picks this year to trade! And their cap space is all going to be used to re-sign Powell. So, they are really restricted in the moves that they could make.

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i mean they didn't have Nurkic for most of last year and never really had a flow when he got back. that's a major addition

they're not title contenders but they're a potential top 4 seed if they re-sign powell and avoid injuries

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Sounds like a sure fire way to have Dame officially request out.

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It's highly unlikely he'll find a better position from a team who has assets OTHER than DEN or PHI...MAYBE the Heat

East: Nets and Bucks already blew their load. Knicks won't be better. Hawks don't fit

West: Clippers and Lakers already blew their load. DEN could do something. I guess if the Warriors could make it work they would be a player (I don't think the numbers work). Phoenix isn't going to make a deal like that.


There aren't that many places who can/will make a deal to put him in a better shot than seeds 3-5 in the West

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That’s not the problem.

It’s the “not championship contenders” part.

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