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Mikal Bridges developing into a true #1 option
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:53 am
4 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists on 2/13 shooting last night. More turnovers than made shots. -28 when he was on the floor in a game they lost by 27.
Edit: Mikal Bridges not Miles
Edit: Mikal Bridges not Miles
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 11:55 am
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:14 pm to saintslsupels
quote:But at least he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA who certainly has a better defensive rating than let's say, Brandon Ingram? He must, right?
4 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists on 2/13 shooting last night. More turnovers than made shots. -28 when he was on the floor in a game they lost by 27.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:15 pm to saintslsupels
Imagine Pels Talk if BI had a stat line like that. Good lord.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:22 pm to PP7 for heisman
I personally think he’s better at defense than BI, but his defensive advanced stats since going to Brooklyn have dropped and they’re about the same as BI’s advanced stats. This is just going off of basketball-reference. Basically when Bridges is asked to be the guy, he’s about as good at defense as BI and not quite as good at offense as BI.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:25 pm to PP7 for heisman
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4 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists on 2/13 shooting last night. More turnovers than made shots. -28 when he was on the floor in a game they lost by 27.
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But at least he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA who certainly has a better defensive rating than let's say, Brandon Ingram? He must, right?
Since we are playing the numbers game, for the 23-24 season, BI's rating is 114.9. Mikal's is 118.
22'-23' season Mikal had a 114.8 defensive rating.
Objectively speaking Mikal is leaps and bounds a better defender than BI. Mikal's defensive impact has dropped significantly since leaving Phx. There are a number of factors that play into this:
1. Monty was a better defensive coach than Vaughn.
2. More of an offensive load to carry
3. He's older
The truth is that Mikal hasn't been the lockdown guy he was in Phx. It's still really good, but not that same guy.
Saintlsupels said it best
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Basically when Bridges is asked to be the guy, he’s about as good at defense as BI and not quite as good at offense as BI.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:41 pm to saintslsupels
Pels fans need to let thoughts of trading for Bridges go. Rumors are that him not being featured enough or how he wanted is what got the coach fired, and then the GM talks about building around him. He's not in the right headspace to come in and humble himself to do what we need him to do.
And that's ok. Herb is already becoming the Phoenix Mikal Bridges everyone had wanted to trade for anyway.
And that's ok. Herb is already becoming the Phoenix Mikal Bridges everyone had wanted to trade for anyway.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:05 pm to TigerinATL
Low key move of the off season was resigning Herb a year before his contract expired.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:30 pm to saintslsupels
People want Mikal because he's a much better fit with Zion and actually has value off-ball, not because they believe he is a better "primary option" than BI.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:47 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Yea, not sure I've ever read from any Pels fan about wanting Bridges on this team to be our #1 option.
People want Mikal because he's a much better fit with Zion and actually has value off-ball, not because they believe he is a better "primary option" than BI.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:51 pm to 504Voodoo
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More of an offensive load to carry
It’s mostly this.
It’s much easier to be the defensive focal point when you sit in the corner on offense.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:53 pm to Epic Cajun
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People want Mikal because he's a much better fit with Zion and actually has value off-ball, not because they believe he is a better "primary option" than BI.
and people don't realize that Mikal is not a legit #2 option, and neither is CJ, and while i have no problem saying we may need a different #2 than BI, BI is a #2, and if you get rid of him, you better find that guard who can create his own shot from anywhere on the court like BI can. Without that #2, we aren't doing a damn thing in the playoffs.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
I think acquiring a true PG in the offseason that allows BI to move more off ball will make him fit better. Last night he was our best player but everyone is so sold on shipping him off no one wants to acknowledge it. BI is a better player than Bridges, sorry to burst yalls bubble
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:10 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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I think acquiring a true PG in the offseason that allows BI to move more off ball will make him fit better.
I tend to agree as well, but that would mean you would have to trade CJ.
CJ is a starter and so is Herb, so if you bring in a PG, then he has to take one of their places.
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Last night he was our best player but everyone is so sold on shipping him off no one wants to acknowledge it.
Well of course. It's difficult for a lot of poeple here to acknowledge when he does well, and they can't wait for the next time they can complain about a mid range jump shot.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:19 pm to spaghettioeauxs
quote:Every poster that wants BI traded also recognizes that some nights he's our best player.
Last night he was our best player but everyone is so sold on shipping him off no one wants to acknowledge it.
Some nights Zion is our best player. Sometimes it's CJ, or Trey, or Herb...the difference is none of them are due anywhere near the money that BI has coming up.
It's not just about how good you are, it's bout how good you are relative to your contract.
They also recognize that he's not worth the 30% incoming max contract.
quote:Not really though.
BI is a better player than Bridges, sorry to burst yalls bubble
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
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and while i have no problem saying we may need a different #2 than BI, BI is a #2, and if you get rid of him, you better find that guard who can create his own shot from anywhere on the court like BI can. Without that #2, we aren't doing a damn thing in the playoffs.
Someone should tell BI that he's a #2, he appears to believe that he's a #1, and doesn't make himself valuable in a secondary role (off ball).
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:25 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:That's the issue. But the other issue is that "someone" has basically told BI he is the #1. The Pels entire front office at every turn has told BI and everyone that.
Someone should tell BI that he's a #2, he appears to believe that he's a #1, and doesn't make himself valuable in a secondary role (off ball).
BI IMO has all the tools to be a successful #2 if he changed his shot profile.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:27 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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BI is a better player than Bridges, sorry to burst yalls bubble
It's really an interesting question. Is it better to be the 30th best primary option, or the 10th best secondary option/role player?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:29 pm to shel311
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BI IMO has all the tools to be a successful #2 if he changed his shot profile.
Absolutely. If he would focus on spot up 3's when Zion is on the floor, and then did the "other stuff" that he likes to do when he was on the court without Zion, he would fit pretty well.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:37 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:As I always say, I know the focus on BI is always lack of 3s, and that's not necessarily wrong.
Absolutely. If he would focus on spot up 3's when Zion is on the floor, and then did the "other stuff" that he likes to do when he was on the court without Zion, he would fit pretty well.
But equally important is how he just doesn't attack the rim any more, but is so good at it when he does.
BI's last 2 seasons with the Lakers, he took 34% and 37.% of his shots at the rim, 0-3 ft to be exact. The last 4 years with the Pels that number has been basically at 14% each season. But he's making that shot at over a 70% clip.
If he sacrificed 3-4 middies a game for 2 more 3s and 2 more shots at the rim, he'd likely be able to score at an elite level efficiency wise for volume shooters.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to shel311
I just find it amusing the guy who will defend CJ and JV on this team at great lengths is also hugely anti BI. You talk about consistency, in what world have JV and CJ been consistent this season? JV’s only consistency is he doesn’t miss games. Neither can defend to save their lives and are a coin flip if they are going to contribute on offense that night. If CJ isn’t hitting his 3, he’s a negative. JV can be shut down by the likes of Jakob Poetl and can’t rim protect. BI is the problem though
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