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re: Mikal Bridges developing into a true #1 option

Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Maybe playing next to the biggest paint-clogger in the NBA has something to do with it.

Why can CJ do it playing on the same team then?


Why couldn't BI do it when Zion missed an entire season, or only played 29 games the next season?


The Zion excuse makes no sense given how many games BI has played without Zion and he hasn't changed his shot profile then either.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Shel is getting completely lost in his analytics and ignoring all of the context of defense.
You think BI is as good as he can get.


Shel thinks he has untapped potential.



That's the difference.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10430 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:41 pm to
If only our offense has a consistent ebb and flow like most other teams. We literally run two different offenses when the other guy is off the court and their roles change from game to game. Yea that's on coaching but we already knew these guys don't fit since 2020.

There's not a lot you can do to without one guy taking a step back and accept a secondary role. These guys play have proven to be better without each other. That won't change as long as they're on the same roster.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:47 pm to
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There's not a lot you can do to without one guy taking a step back and accept a secondary role. These guys play have proven to be better without each other. That won't change as long as they're on the same roster.
They're obviously not nearly as good, but it really does remind me a lot of the 2011 Heat and then into 2012.


The 2011 Heat did a lot of Lebron and Wade taking turns, trying to split duties as the #1 option. They were good, but not good enough.

DWade has talked extensively about how after that season, he realized he just had to defer to Lebron because Lebron was so clearly the better player. He deferred, Lebron became the clearcut #1 option, and Miami took off, won 2 straight titles.


Can we take off and win 2 straight titles? Nah, but it seems like an apt comparison in terms of what we need to do to become the best version of the Pels that we can be.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32531 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:25 pm to
I just don't understand how anyone, fans, coaches, front office, could possibly think that the best version of this team is having BI as the number 1 option. The primary option should be Zion, or someone who isn't currently on the roster. This team is destined to be a first round out, if you're playing with BI as the primary option.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1783 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:57 pm to
I don’t think anyone thinks BI should be the #1 option. I don’t know any fans or posters who say that at least.

For Willie and the organization, it may be that they need Zion to play a full year and really earn the #1 player status. I wish he’d get the ball more at the end of games, but after the previous 2 years I don’t blame them for wanting Zion to earn the right to be the #1.

I will say it’s about time to make him the main guy in the clutch. He’s been healthy this year and seems like he’s bought in.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:10 pm to
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I just don't understand how anyone, fans, coaches, front office, could possibly think that the best version of this team is having BI as the number 1 option. The primary option should be Zion, or someone who isn't currently on the roster. This team is destined to be a first round out, if you're playing with BI as the primary option.


Zion SHOULD be the #1 option, but that requires that he do 2 things:

1: Earn it. He hasn't. #1 is a leader, and a leader is always present.
2. Take it. Standing in the halfcourt corner while everyone else runs offense isn't taking it.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Why can CJ do it playing on the same team then?


See my post on the last page. Context. It's easier to drive to the rim off a hard close when someone like BI draws the defense and kicks to you open on the arc.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:32 pm to
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See my post on the last page. Context. It's easier to drive to the rim off a hard close when someone like BI draws the defense and kicks to you open on the arc.
BI gets more assisted 2s than CJ does.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:31 pm to
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BI gets more assisted 2s than CJ does.


Who gets more assisted 3s? Assists that involve dribbles are pretty specific and tends to be more when the scorer immediately drives. If he even looks like he thinks about a pump fake, it's not supposed to be counted as an assist. It's a weird grey area where the scoring can get a little subjective.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 7:33 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Who gets more assisted 3s?
CJ has the least amount of assisted 2s and the least amount of assisted 3s on the team and was still able to completely change his shot profile to have his most efficient scoring season of his career.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63567 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:51 am to
People overstate the problem of BI’s fit with Zion. In our most impressive win they have been great
together.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:19 pm to
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People overstate the problem of BI’s fit with Zion


My biggest issue is that they piss and moan about BI's fit while not realizing Zion has equal, if not worse, fit issues.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110944 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:31 pm to
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My biggest issue is that they piss and moan about BI's fit while not realizing Zion has equal, if not worse, fit issues
Because Zion is clearly the best player on the team.

If there's a fit issue with the best player, the blame goes to the front office for not building a roster that fits around your best player.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27260 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:10 pm to
No one on the team is just going to hand zion the #1 spot.

He has to actually play and compete 100% of the time.



Once he fully buys in I'm sure the team and coach will start treating him like the #1
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4065 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:51 am to
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People want Mikal because he's a much better fit with Zion and actually has value off-ball, not because they believe he is a better "primary option" than BI.


Yes. This board is fricking stupid.
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