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re: Media day starts at 8:45
Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:42 pm to NOSHAU
Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:42 pm to NOSHAU
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Don't think those salaries would match.
It would be a legal trade. It would add 3 million more in salary for us, but it would still have us under the first apron.
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Replacing DFS with Noah Clowney or Trendon Watford works.
I believe that would push Brooklyn into the tax, and I don’t see them paying the tax to tank, because they would almost assuredly flip BI somewhere for bad salary and picks
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 4:44 pm
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:40 pm to Soggymoss
I love that Claxton's contract is declining. Fits well with the cap situtation they are in and with Trey's extension.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:48 pm to Soggymoss
NBA trade machine says Jan 14 2025.
It also then says December 15 or 3 months, which ever is later.
Doesn't make much sense.
It also then says December 15 or 3 months, which ever is later.
Doesn't make much sense.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:47 pm to Aussie_Pelican
The date I've read is December 15th. Which puts us about 15 games into the season.
Wonder if we can flip DFS for WCJ.
BI/JRE/ Missi out
Claxton/ WCJ in
Really interested to see if Hawk can step up and earn more minutes.
Wonder if we can flip DFS for WCJ.
BI/JRE/ Missi out
Claxton/ WCJ in
Really interested to see if Hawk can step up and earn more minutes.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:48 pm to Dantheman504
Where is all this claxton speculation coming from?
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:51 pm to ghost2most
The trade BI crowd sulking in the bar after closing
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:03 pm to Pistol44
How is everyone not a member of the trade BI crowd? He isn’t resigning here. He doesn’t bring the value that is required of a max player playing next to Zion. He has made it quite clear that he feels he is a max player. Trey does bring significant value playing next to Zion and we aren’t paying both. We also have the single worst center rotation in the league. Every single Pelican fan should be hoping and praying for a trade. The sooner, the better.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:13 pm to Soggymoss
I never thought I would ever say these words, but I loved what I heard from Willie Green today. He spoke about how he did a poor job with rotations and was responsible for the confusion and incompetence in late game situations. The fact that he talked about these issues without being prodded shows that he recognized them as major issues and is working to correct them. Regarding Ingram, he not only said that BI needs to shoot more threes, but he clearly stated that BI must "break his habits" and "get out of his comfort zone" of getting to his spot and shooting his shot. We'll soon see how true it is, but it was very encouraging to hear that BI understood and was working all summer to break those habits.
Willie might have realized these things sooner if he had read Tigerdroppings, but for the first time in his 4 years, I believe he has a firm grasp of what has held this team back from making a big jump. If he learns how to get a tech, Willie may end up making Griff look like a genius for extending him.
Willie might have realized these things sooner if he had read Tigerdroppings, but for the first time in his 4 years, I believe he has a firm grasp of what has held this team back from making a big jump. If he learns how to get a tech, Willie may end up making Griff look like a genius for extending him.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:14 am to ThePistol
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How is everyone not a member of the trade BI crowd?
The board got fealty rules now? Lot of folks support BI on the Pels. You all triggered over this, listen it will all get settled in camp one way or another.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:48 am to shel311
Trey: I feel I'm a starter. I'm a starter in the NBA.
The idea of him starting the season on bench and BI starting just makes me angry right now.
It's just dumb. If BI wants to pout, he can pout from the bench. Trey is the future at that position, we know we're moving on from BI. Don't waste another year of Trey in the backup role, why would we do that?
It hasn't even happened yet, and it's driving me crazy
Well, number 1 is your administration doesn't have a backbone. The players run that organization, always have and always will. The Pelican organization really saps all the goodness out of players especially the good players because they have no real intention on winning. The culture is bad, look at all the good players who was there and they never developed them. Most of those guys got better once they left. #2 Willie Green is the second problem. I don't need to comment on him.
The idea of him starting the season on bench and BI starting just makes me angry right now.
It's just dumb. If BI wants to pout, he can pout from the bench. Trey is the future at that position, we know we're moving on from BI. Don't waste another year of Trey in the backup role, why would we do that?
It hasn't even happened yet, and it's driving me crazy
Well, number 1 is your administration doesn't have a backbone. The players run that organization, always have and always will. The Pelican organization really saps all the goodness out of players especially the good players because they have no real intention on winning. The culture is bad, look at all the good players who was there and they never developed them. Most of those guys got better once they left. #2 Willie Green is the second problem. I don't need to comment on him.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:22 am to Pistol44
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The board got fealty rules now? Lot of folks support BI on the Pels. You all triggered over this, listen it will all get settled in camp one way or another.
Fealty rules? Really?
Here is the deal. We know that we can only start one of BI and Trey moving forward. Trey fits better with our best player and the organization has proven through its actions that they agree and will move forward with Trey. This makes BI a lame duck player who is being asked to take on a lesser role with the addition of DM. It is not if he will not be on the roster moving forward, it is when. This information coupled with the fact that we don't have one at least average NBA center on the roster is a huge problem. Most fans are smart enough to realize this is a huge issue going into the season.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:42 am to ThePistol
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Here is the deal. We know that we can only start one of BI and Trey moving forward
So in this fantasy world is it CJ or Herb not starting?
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:06 am to TeddyPadillac
I think CJ as a sixth man just makes too much sense. A lineup of DM/Herb/TMIII/Z/center gives the Pels the length they crave to start games. It allows Herb to be on the floor to take advantage of his defense against the other team's primary wing. CJ would probably play half of his minutes with majority starters and fill a role similar to last season. The other half of his minutes he could serve as more primary ball handler and attack bench units. The closing lineup would develop over time and you play who you need to in order to close.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:07 am to TeddyPadillac
I don't understand why the Nets would sign Claxton only to trade him a few months later and take on BI. That makes no sense to me.
Bench BI or just send him home like John Wall.
I don't think his attitude or game help the current team.
Bench BI or just send him home like John Wall.
I don't think his attitude or game help the current team.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:20 am to ThePistol
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I think CJ as a sixth man just makes too much sense.
on paper sure.
that's not how things work in the nba though.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:32 am to ThePistol
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How is everyone not a member of the trade BI crowd?
As a founding father, I would like to welcome all of those just showing up.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:34 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Trey should start over CJ, how is that a controversial take?
So in this fantasy world is it CJ or Herb not starting?
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:48 am to shel311
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Trey should start over CJ, how is that a controversial take?
I"m not here to argue against the take in principle, as I 100% agree with it.
But we have to live in reality, and i just don't see CJ coming off the bench, especially after the remarkable shooting he had this past year. I don't think he'd be happy with it, and I don't think Willie would do it either.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:52 am to TeddyPadillac
Really need Hawkins/Reeves to develop so we can move on from CJ after the season. I'll be surprised if he'll be okay with going to the bench while he's here.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:27 am to shel311
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Trey should start over CJ, how is that a controversial take?
Because CJ is not cheap. The sentiment should be CJ starts until he isn't good enough to start or gets out performed. And either outcome means you trade him asap.
This world where a 30mil player just comes off the bench is bs.
He starts or he's traded. If he goes to the bench then there's already trade talks and you better pray Trey/ Hawk pick up the slack without BI/ CJ.
There's more scheming and attention that CJ absorbs.
Trey averaged 15pts/ 30.5min/ 10.5 fg the last 2 seasons. Add 5 shots a game and hopefully FT's Trey's #'s will go up.
No BI already frees up an extra 4-5 shots for Trey. No need to create bigger headaches by benching CJ.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 9:29 am
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